By Guest on Sunday, 25 August 2002
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I know its early to be thinking about 4th year electives, but I thought I'd ask now. I go to an east coast middle to lower tier school with an ortho program. I don't have any real desire to stay here, but if it was the only ortho program I could get I would stay. My real interest is a southern california program, again I am not picky, any one will do. I got a 253 Step I, top 10% of my class, but no ortho research. My question is if I want to do some electives in the beginning of 4th year, is there a cali program that would be best, should I do 2, should I do one at my school. I hear cali programs are more cali resident selective. The reason I want to go there is for my girlfriensd??? Should I not even waste my time and concentrate on doing more local electives and dissapoint her??? Please help. PS: at my school the Ortho Director writes LORs for all ortho applicants regardless if he knows you or not based on 2 interviews. i realize it won't be a stunning LOR if you don't know him, but if I do 3 outside electives and tag that one on???
You gotta be kidding me....dude chill.

I think you need to be honest with yourself and your girlfriend. If it's trully meant to be, she'll understand what your needs are and support you in your decision. As they say, distance makes the heart grow founder.

Are you sensing my sarcasm? Good. Again...you gotta be friggin' kidding me! Just concentrate on smoking 3rd year for now. At least wait until we get some interviews THIS year.

Since when did Sunday become retarded post day?
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HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!! HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!
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23 years ago
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Dude,

unless your girl is a doctor, if any one is thinking about relocating, it needs to be her. you should concentrate on getting into the best ortho program that you can get into and go from there. show her who's wearing the freakin' pants.
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23 years ago
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ok, bone-jock's egotistical post REALLY got me riled up. the fact that you all would put a JOB ahead of everything else in your life is utterly ridiculous. as for relocating, if this is the one time when someone would have a chance to be near someone they care about, GO FOR IT. there are tons of orthopedic residencies; 85% of applicants get into one of them. with a 253 on the boards, g-dax, you WILL get into one of them.

but, if the love of your life is in california, good grief, by all means try and move there, and if you insult her by claiming your life is more important and she should move, then your a** ought to get kicked out of her life. california residencies are currently in high demand because of location. the programs are searching for good students. these places seem state resident selective, but are often merely forced to do so because they really only see local students rotating. plus, doing a rotation at a given institution instills in their mind that you really are interested in being there. and when your personal life is there, it's an added incentive - don't think that they don't like that fact as well. there is no reason you need a rotation at your home school if you truly have no desire to stay there. if you're hesitant, there's no reason not to try and schedule a cali school for july, along with a home school that same month, and drop the one you don't want to do. good programs that will be hard to get into include ucla, ucsf, and ucsd. stanford has a solid program, probably not top tier, but a good back up. that, and there are about 6 others including usc, uc irvine, uc davis, and loma linda. start researching early and try to get information on the programs so you don't apply to them quite as blindly as the rest of us seem to.

an additional tidbit that someone once told me and i took advantage of: see if you can move one of your third year requirements into fourth year, and do an ortho elective in june. i did that, and wound up with an awesome experience because at that point the two's are almost three's, and they will let you do TONS of stuff, partly because they're sick of the "mundane," and partly because they've already done it a million times. that, and your interns are at the end of their rotation, too, so you generally wind up with a fabulous experience. june rotations are a well-kept secret that i think work highly in an applicants favor.

good luck in third year, and keep in mind that the time frame for applying for away electives is relatively early.
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I'll be a little less sarcastic than the previous posts, AND I'll give you some insight.
1st of all this is coming from an ORTHO intern on the east coast who had some of the same concerns...but not til 4th year.
As for Cali...Check out USC. The hospital is a h$%& hole BUT they're building a brand new one and the other assoc'd program hospitals are nice...VERY nice. They take 10 residents a year, usually 5 of their own students and 4-5 that rotated there. And for your REALITY check...Just about every inner city/economically depressed/ghetto county hospital is much the same (the exception is probably MetroHealth in Cleveland and a handful of others)...so forget what people say about how bad the facility is.
Remember...your girlfriend is just that...a girlfriend....
She shouldn't be a factor until rank time and even then ONLY if you're planning on taking the next step (ie Bling-BLANG)...If she's a classmate then roll your dice in the couples match so long as being together in SlumWater, Kentucky is better than being apart in more desireable cities.
If she's not on the residency course (ie not a doc) then she'll have to make the decision.
Nobody said being a doc would be easy...
Ortho especially... )
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