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  Wednesday, 01 March 2017
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Hey all, I'm an MS3, hoping to get some advice on away rotations since the deadlines are starting to creep up.

Gender: Female
STEP 1: 232
STEP 2: Slated to take it in June (and yes, I know, it's gotta be crushed)
Clinicals: Honors in OB/Peds/Surgery (96th percentile). Pass in family. Still to take Neuro, IM, Psych, EM.
AOA: Not sure yet
Research: 1 poster presentation and 3 current projects not ortho. 2 projects from undergrad in musculoskeletal biomechanics. 2 ortho papers (One 1st or 2nd author, the other 4th or 5th).

Some background-I did my undergrad in biomedical engineering, and came to medical school thinking I was going to go into general surgery. I ended up hating my gen surg rotation and simultaneously getting talked into giving ortho a 3 week trial (surgery subspecialty) by a resident at my home program. I was pretty much sold after that rotation. However, my STEP 1 isn't strong for ortho, and as I've decided pretty late in the game I don't have a ton of ortho research. I understand applying ortho is a risk, and my score may keep me from getting interviews, but I've made up my mind to give it a shot and see where I land.

I know I need to be strategic about aways, but I am really new to the ortho world, and pretty much don't know anything about anything when it comes to programs and tiers and so on.

So far I plan to do one in San Antonio (Have a connection there) and one at my home program. I know the other 2 probably need to be out of state, but am having trouble choosing those wisely because past looking up forums and googling crap (Hit or miss), I'm not sure how else to get in the know.
Any feedback is appreciated!
9 years ago
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Have you thought about taking a research year - this will help with many things including:

1) Having mentors at the place you do the year/getting a strong letter out of it
2) Bolstering research to your application (most research years result in 5-10 publications)
3) giving you time to take Step 2 (to make sure you crush it)
4) giving you time to decide on aways since you are a little late in the game.

Your situation is probably the ideal situation for this.
9 years ago
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As far as away rotations go, I would consider several different factors (as it looks like you already have).

1) Location - What part of the country do you see yourself living? There is still some debate about whether or not doing an away somewhere "opens up a region". Personally, I don't think it does unless you get a killer letter from someone well-known in that region. But doing well on an away is a great way to get your foot in the door at an individual program and make up for a lower Step 1 in that program's eyes. I had a PD tell me that performing well on an away means much more to them than a lower Step 1 (and I think this is the feeling at most programs).

2) Competitiveness/Prestige of the program - Do all you can to find out if places have cutoffs for Step 1 scores (difficult to do, but FREIDA at least has a lot of programs' average Step 1 Scores). Without a ton of research and a sub-ortho Step 1, the chances of you matching at a Top "Prestige" program aren't good. So choose wisely on the programs you do an away at. A couple mid-tier (smaller University programs or lesser-known community programs) may be best for you. There are a ton of great programs out there, not just the top 20-30 you see thrown around on here a bunch.

3) Female-friendly programs - look at which programs have female residents, and if you want, reach out to them (if you can get a hold of their contact info). I have a fellow female classmate who did this and found it to be very helpful when choosing her aways.

Like bladerunner said, you could consider a research year to get some connections/more time to Study for step 2, etc. There is no doubt this would be a benefit to you. However, if taking an extra year sounds awful, I think pressing your luck isn't too far-fetched (but I would definitely have a Plan B nonetheless). Crush Step 2, do as much research as you can in the next year, honor the rest of your clerkships, and most importantly GET STRONG LETTERS. If you have 3 or 4 great letters from people who have connections and are willing to go to bat for you, this could make or break you when the time comes.

Hope that helps!
9 years ago
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Both these answers were extremely helpful-thank you both. I really, really appreciate the advice. Appreciate you guys!
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The only other thing I would add is to do your aways where you could see yourself living happily. The prestige and all that is BS. I got interviews at places with "prestige" and noticed that I was surrounded by a bunch of people who hated each other. Obviously that's not everywhere, but just saying. Consider your happiness. Decide on aways at places you would love to be and go from there. I met a bunch of people with your score and research and matched at their number 1 program after doing an away there.
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