OrthoDreamer
OSRR Intern
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(3/27/02 1:00:56 am)
66.87.104.171
Reply | Edit | Del All UCSF, Stanford
Does anyone have any insight into the programs at UCSF or Stanford? Anyone rotate there? Any info would be appreciated...Thanks
OrthoRBust
OSRR Newbie
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(3/27/02 2:03:17 am)
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Reply | Edit | Del Re: UCSF, Stanford
UCSF - I rotated at SFGH, and know the program well. Seems to have an excellent academic reputation. Generally well-rounded training, stronger in spine and arthroplasty, weaker in sports. Residents are VERY cool. Faculty at SFGH and VA are fun to work with, but Moffit/UCSF hospital has a bad rep.
Can be tough to get an interview, and they select most of their residents from students who did SubI there.
Stanford - Took a lot of heat this year for being on probation, but only because they havent bothered to appoint a permanent chair. Seem to have a solid program with a good crop of residents, but weak in trauma. Good lifestyle (lots of home call), seem to have no problem getting fellowships/jobs.
Wierd dichotomy in this program, some of my attendings at home program had no respect for it, but others said it is really good.
KY1
OSRR Intern
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(3/27/02 10:33:59 am)
24.118.168.195
Reply | Edit | Del UCLA, USC...(orthohopeful, orthoRBust, anyone else)
can you comment on any of the south cal programs?
UCLA -
Are the operative experience and resident-attending relations still really bad there?
How many spots do they have?
What is call like here?
Did the new hospital make you consider ucla more?
Does the UCLA website have any info on their ortho dept? I could not find any info whatsoever.
USC -
how brutal is this program?
do on-call teams go home in morning?
how bad is ancillary staff and does that matter?
ucla-harbor and lomalinda - are their programs not as popular with people?
people-
which CA programs are jock heavy and which aren't?
UCSD, UCI
any general impressions?
away advice-
i'm from a MN school hoping to go to south cal. i will do 1 maybe 2 rotations in cali this summer. any thoughts on where i should do them to get the best chance of matching somewhere in CA coming from MN?
should i really do 4wks/rotation or is 2-3 enough?
Thanks a lot!!
orthohopeful
OSRR Senior
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(3/27/02 11:09:15 am)
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You would probably do better to talk with someone who rotated there because my info is only from the interviews, but I'll give you my feel for the programs.
UCLA- beautiful facilities and the new hospital is a big plus as well. From my conversations with several residents, all were happy with no complaints about their operative experience or relations with staff whatsoever. They definitely get supervision in the OR, which is seen as overbearing by some students but as welcome instruction by others. The call was very very benign. One of the best call schedules I saw, but I don't remember the specifics of it. They probably are weaker in trauma at the beginning of residency but they seemed to think they caught up after the senior rotation at Harbor. From what I'm told, the Harbor residents teach the UCLA guys to do the trauma cases and the UCLA guys can teach the knee scopes and more elective ortho, but again I have no direct knowledge of this.
USC- pretty much polar opposite of UCLA. LA County is a total dump, probably the least desirable facility I saw on the interview trail, but there is no shortage of pathology. I got the distinct feeling that there was little supervision of the residents in the OR. They get tossed in there and just fly. Some people love this and some people are overwhelmed by the responsibility and possibility of hurting a patient. The call is pretty rough, but they do go home early (e.g. 10 a.m. - noon if I remember correctly, but the seniors split even earlier). Overall I just wasn't comfortable with the facility, the workload, or the lack of supervision in the OR so I ranked USC low.
I ranked UCLA 5th, but didn't get in. I pretty much knew I wouldn't get in because they will tell you after all their interviews what tier of their list you are in. I was second tier out of six tiers. They told us the day of the interview that they never go out of the first tier to fill.
I hope this helps some, but let me repeat that my impressions are only from interview days that were a couple of months ago. You would do well to talk with a rotator to get a better idea.
Good luck.
longhorn orthopod
OSRR Intern
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(3/27/02 12:57:01 pm)
129.106.115.39
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Look at old posts. Alot of your questions have been answered. I ranked UCLA No. 1 and didn't get it. They like to take people that have some ties to southern Cal, which I didn't. If you've ever been outside of MN, that will help them see that you're serious about leaving. So will away rotations. Good luck.
delmonte
OSRR Newbie
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(3/29/02 2:00:26 am)
172.192.56.139
Reply | Edit | Del Re: UCSF, Stanford
Maybe I can add a little insight into Stanford. I rotated there and ranked them number one. They have a terrific program with a bunch of very cool residents. All of their subspecialties are well represented. I'm not sure why they (incorrectly) get the reputation of being a light trauma program. They have a fellowship trained trauma specialist as the chief of trauma who does 1-2 pelvic traumas a week, many of which include orif of acetabular fractures. In addition, they got even more trauma traffic at Santa Clara Valley Hospital, a county hospital in San Jose where residents spend 6 months their second year and 6 months their third year. Their chief residents for the past several years have received top fellowship positions, if that is any indication of their national reputation. Hope that helped.
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