By Guest on Friday, 04 December 2009
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ok so not the typical ortho applicant, which is why i come to you with my first post:

Im a 4th year (of five years) international med student at a big british medical school interested in pursuing ortho in the states/canada.

to give you an idea of my application:

- i am a young student (i.e. i did not pursue an undergrad degree before coming to england). not sure if this will work against me or in my favour?

- i have scored 241/99 on the step 1. the step 1 is what has me doubtful as the average for ortho is 238 for us grads (charting outcomes 2009) as i'm sure you all know. don't get me wrong, i am very motivated to pursue this field, but as an international student i feel that i have to be realistic in my future career plans in competing for jobs that are already very competitive for US grads. residency location is of little importance to me, though if i had the luxury of choice i would like to live in a biggish city - don't really care where.

- fingers crossed i can get some research under my belt before eras time rolls around,and fingerscrossed again it will probably be at a world famous (i think ... uk famous at the very least) hospital down the road from my school. i have done some research in cards already, but unfortunately no pubs as of yet. also done one audit unrelated to surgery and in the process of doing one medicine related one.

- i am shooting for some elective clerkship rotations in ortho after my fourth year (april-may 2010) at some US centres. i am currently in the process of applying. yes i understand the importance of these and i plan on working my butt into the ground for them. and yes i understand the importance of personality and work ethic in these (and not coming across like an unsociable/arrogant tool - lol).

- by the time i apply i will have done at least one foundation year here in the uk. this foundation year is like the UK equivalent of an internship consisting of three different rotations in various fields, one or more of which is usually in a surgical field.

- i hovered around the top quartile in pre-clinical (years 1 and 2, like the US) but managed to do better in third year scoring in the top 10% or so of my year in my junior medicine and surgery rotations. i will be doing my senior medicine and surgery along with peds, ob/gyn, family meds in my final year as my program is slightly different from US allopathic programs. of course my aim is to do as well as possible.

- i have a canadian passport and grew up in canada

so i come to you orthogate gurus ... what do you think?

thanks for your help!
Well, as you implied, your numbers are pretty good. As you also suggested, your internationalism probably isn't in your favor. That said, several folks from across the pond(s) snag spots every year, so it's in your best interest to apply broadly in the US match... for example, folks I know with scores like yours at my research-based institution applied to between 30-60 places and all matched. With that said, if I were you I'd probably aim for the high side of 100 (of the 150 or so places each year), and your chances are better if you can make ANY personal connection with someone at any one of those departments, and bonus points if you could actually take a month(s) to spend over here rotating. The connection is probably your strongest asset, as many programs are inundated with 240 board scores from local chaps, and so they probably wouldn't make too much effort supposing that you'd fly over for an interview, if you know what I mean...
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I would just offer one thing in addition to what has already been posted:

Don't forget about Canada. There are some excellent programs with a smaller applicant pool and reserved IMG spots (only for IMGs who are Canadian citizens or permanent residents), therefore statistically you have a better chance of matching there. Remember, you can still work in the States if you graduate from canada since graduates of Canadian residencies are allowed to sit for the American Boards as well (the only other country allowed to sit).

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Just wrote this to a similar question on another thread - hope this helps.

I'm an IMG from a European school who matched into ortho.

Here are a couple tips that I wish someone had told me before this process. Obviously some of these are my personal opinions, but I hope you find them useful.

1. Getting into a US ortho program will be a substantial investment of time and money, especially from a non-US student's perspective. I think this investment is well worth it, but you will need to decide for yourself.
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