This message was posted on July 13, 1999 coming from 144.92.44.74
This message is a reply to rankings posted from Annie posted at July 11, 1999
> Has anyone seen a ranking of the best orthopedic residency programs?
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There is not a ranking of ortho residencies that I am aware of. I think it would be pretty hard to compare
training programs. There are so many variables. Most of the rankings that you see are related to Hospitals. For
example, the US News always puts out their list of the best hospitals every year. In orthopedics, they look at
a variety of variables that include reputation, mortality rate, Council of Teaching member, amount of on-site
technology, number of discharges, R.N.'s to beds, and whether or not it's a trauma center.
This is no prediction of how well you will be trained in Orthopedics. Can the staff teach? Are there good
didactic lectures and skills labs? Do they provide appropriate responsibility based on skill level? Are all aspects
of orthopedics covered well? etc... Most people just assume that if a hospital has a good reputation and is
very well known, that it is a good place to train. This is not always the case. The best way to find out how
well the training is at a particular program is to talk to the residents. Especially the senior residents who know
what the weaknesses are in their training and have worked with all of the staff.
Of course, there is probably a ranking of ortho residencies somewhere based on OITE scores every year that is
not generally available. This is just an overall indicator of how much minutiae can be retained for a short period
of time and not how well of an orthopedic surgeon you're going to be. Although, it is helpful to see how well
you’re doing against your peers and to see what areas you are weak in.
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This message was posted by A.L., posted on July 19, 1999 coming from 130.94.42.2
I agree whole-heartedly. I did a few rotations before applying and I realized some of the programs that were
considered marquis places, really were not great teaching institutions, and were more geared towards the
big-name attendings. I think in the end, you should do a couple ofrotations and get to see what different
programs are like, and you'll know better what you want out of your education.
This message is a reply to rankings posted from Annie posted at July 11, 1999
> Has anyone seen a ranking of the best orthopedic residency programs?
===============
There is not a ranking of ortho residencies that I am aware of. I think it would be pretty hard to compare
training programs. There are so many variables. Most of the rankings that you see are related to Hospitals. For
example, the US News always puts out their list of the best hospitals every year. In orthopedics, they look at
a variety of variables that include reputation, mortality rate, Council of Teaching member, amount of on-site
technology, number of discharges, R.N.'s to beds, and whether or not it's a trauma center.
This is no prediction of how well you will be trained in Orthopedics. Can the staff teach? Are there good
didactic lectures and skills labs? Do they provide appropriate responsibility based on skill level? Are all aspects
of orthopedics covered well? etc... Most people just assume that if a hospital has a good reputation and is
very well known, that it is a good place to train. This is not always the case. The best way to find out how
well the training is at a particular program is to talk to the residents. Especially the senior residents who know
what the weaknesses are in their training and have worked with all of the staff.
Of course, there is probably a ranking of ortho residencies somewhere based on OITE scores every year that is
not generally available. This is just an overall indicator of how much minutiae can be retained for a short period
of time and not how well of an orthopedic surgeon you're going to be. Although, it is helpful to see how well
you’re doing against your peers and to see what areas you are weak in.
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This message was posted by A.L., posted on July 19, 1999 coming from 130.94.42.2
I agree whole-heartedly. I did a few rotations before applying and I realized some of the programs that were
considered marquis places, really were not great teaching institutions, and were more geared towards the
big-name attendings. I think in the end, you should do a couple ofrotations and get to see what different
programs are like, and you'll know better what you want out of your education.