Hey there,

I'm one of the very happy residents at the DMC/Providence program. If you have specific questions feel free to PM me.

Some basic info...
We have four residents a year. (Presently have PG1-PG3 classes)
We rotate primarily at Detroit Receiving Hospital, Providence and the Children's Hospital of Michigan.

I could go on and on about how much I like things here, please know that all students are welcome. This past year we have had student rotators at Receiving, Providence and Children's. The phone number to coordinate rotations is (313) 966 4750.
We'd really like to meet ya!

.. is it true that the program is a mix of DO and MD or is it just MD.

Is it bad if it's both DO and MD?

it is not about good or bad, if it is an allopathic program or a mixed osteopathic and allolpathic program. people are asking and they deserve to know piror to applying.

The only way it would be "mixed" was if it was an allopathic program that selected a DO student. I don't know of any dual accredited orthopedic residencies (which I think is what you are asking if this program is), although there are other residencies, general surgery, FP etc that have dual AOA/ACGME accreditation.

However this program like others around the country may have accepted a DO or two in their residency, which is obviously different than dual accreditation.

Now if you are wondering if they've accepted DO's in the past or work with the other DO residents in the other Detroit residencies, that's when I would ask does that really matter?

Dr. capneedle

absoulty not, most programs have rotators, and DRH is a level one trauma center the educational exp in second to none.
since DMC is an away rotation for wayne student, i am in between DMC and beaumont.
I know if you don't rotate at beaumont there is no chance.

Hey guys,

I am another DMC/prov resident. To answer your questions, there are NO osteopathic residents in the program. There are DOs however from the programs around the area that rotate on some of our services, because presently, we only have PGY-1, PGY-2, and PGY-3s. And we just matched an exceptional class of new interns to be starting in July also.

As to whether it is good or bad to have the DOs, I think that it is a great opportunity. To get into DO ortho, you have to be at the top of the DO world. They are just like any other ortho residents. The DO guys are extremely well trained, extremely knowledgeable, great at teaching, and fun guys to hang out with on the service or go out with. Usually its been just me and the DO guy doing a case, and the DO senior lets me do the whole case. Plus, many of these guys are scoring in the high 90th percentiles on the OITE. So the answer is, NO it does NOT really matter if you work with the DOs or not.

To talk about the Providence head, he is not hard to get along with. I spent 3 months at providence this year doing joints and general ortho, and worked with him. He goes to all the journal clubs. He is one of the greatest resources we have in the program (tons of research, HSS trained, advocate, lecturer around the country, etc...) There were many times when we would go out to eat or for drinks after a long day of cases (8 or so primary joints and be done by 4). As a resident, this guy has your back no matter what. If you need a research idea or money for research, done. If you had a bad experience on ANY rotation, he will take care if it. He will pick up the phone, or use his cell phone and take care or the problem right away. That's how he is. If you don't like something about the program, they will try to cater to you. If I ever have any problems, concerns, questions, I just call him on his cell phone. Im sorry if some people had a bad experience with him, but he just may have not gotten to know you, or just didnt like you.

Feel free to PM me or email me with any questions you guys have. We would love to have you guys come rotate with us. At providence you will see tons of cases and do a lot. Tons of primary and revision joints, and bread butter trauma (hip fx, ankles). The Receving hospital ortho experience is like none other (yesterday we did a humeral nail, femoral nail, revised a retrograde nail to a TTFN, 2 total knees, shoulder dislocation, and a IT fracture with a posterior wall acetabulum, removed several bullets from peoples extremities. NOTE: the residents did the ENTIRE cases with the attendings help only on the acetabulum); also, not to mention how many reductions you can do if you hang with the on call guy during the day or night.

Coordinator: (313) 966-4750
email: KStanley@dmc.org

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Grassi

Thank you for the inside info, as a third year students we hear a lot of different things (true or not). I am planning on rotating at Grace as I hear the program director is based out there. Looking forward to meeting some of the guys.
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the DO ortho residents that I have met are great guys. I would say any program allo or osteopathic would be very lucky to have them as their resident.

Again there are no DOs in our program at present, nor are we a joint DO/MD program.

thanks for the clarification guys, I thought that was how it worked there from talking to some of the others. Good information all around on this program.