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  Tuesday, 06 August 2002
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Hey folks...I was going thru different programs' websites and put together a list of special requirements unique to certain programs during the application process...just add more stuff to this list if you get more info...

most programs want 3 LORs (1 from your program director)

Harvard - wants 4 letter of recs with 1 from a chief resident (website says doesn't have to be ortho chief resident)

Johns Hopkins - also wants 4 LORs

Univ. of Michigan - has a "voluntary ID form" to fill out on their program website

Washington Univ. - supplemental form on website for each of your LOR writers to fill out

UMDNJ (Newark) - want MCAT score, college transcript, and supplemental form (on website) for each LOR writer to fill out

NYU/HJD - in your personal statement, they want to know why you like HJD specifically

MCP/Hannemann - SAT score, MCAT score

Brown University - this is actually a 6 yr program (5 yr residency and 1 year of extra junior attending mandatory but you will be awarded a trauma fellowship according to website)
23 years ago
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just one more question while I'm here...since my home program doesn't have an ortho residency and most programs require a chairman's letter, will a surgery's chairman letter suffice instead? what did people with this problem last year end up doing? thanks...
23 years ago
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Actually, most do NOT require a chairman's letter. I was an applicant last year, and only one program required such a letter (out of 30 applied to). I can't remember which one it was though, sorry! A few of us split up our lists of programs and called each individually to find out the requirements. We asked about # of LOR required, yes/no chairman's letter, MCAT, SAT (most laughed at this question), chief resident letter, etc...
23 years ago
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I had a somewhat different experience. I'd say that the majority of places that I applied to wanted a chairman's letter. I'd venture to say around 80%. And as for not having ortho at your school. Tough luck, I guess you'll just have to do g-surg. Just kiddin'. if you don't have an ortho program, I can't imagine that you would need to have a chairman's letter.
23 years ago
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Here's what I got:

UMKC - Extra form for LOR
UNC - SAT, MCAT
Okla - Add to PS why you would like Oklahoma Region
Vandy - Extra form for LOR
Baylor - Extra form for LOR

Here's a question to add on. Some of these schools mention submitting these extra LOR forms through ERAS. Anybody have a good idea about how to do that? :smokin:
23 years ago
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For the programs with an extra LOR form like Vandy, I had my school scan in each LOR of rec twice (or more, depending on how many extra form programs you apply to), as LOR Dr. Z BASIC and LOR Dr. Z VANDY, with "VANDY" being 2 pages (the 2nd page the extra form). Then for Vandy, I selected LOR Dr. Z VANDY and every other school I selected LOR Dr. Z BASIC. It was confusing as h$%&, but the best way I could figure it out. It worked out fine. As an alternative, you could call these schools and ask if you could just fax or mail the forms separately.
23 years ago
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You can assign letters before they are uploaded. You can do this now if you want. When your dean's office receives the letters in October or whenever, they'll scan them and send them to the programs you designated.

I sent 4 ortho letters and know many others who sent 4.
23 years ago
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Thanks for the info guys. A guy that matched last year told me not to sweat the extra stuff too much. Other guys in his class spent hours going through every program's web page to see what they wanted. He said "screw that" though. He sent the extra stuff if he knew about it in advance. If not, he said the programs will contact you after they get your appl and will ask for any other stuff they want then. And he got plenty of top-knotch interviews. :pimp:
23 years ago
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Ooh, ooh, I forgot to ask.

For those programs above that ask for a CV, do you guys know if that means a hard copy, or is that just the CV that they get from ERAS? It's friggin ridiculous if they need a hard copy as well...I guess them's the breaks.

Word
23 years ago
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they get a CV from ERAS...no need to send in another one.
23 years ago
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One take one sending more than three letters if the program only asks for three. Our director says that he tosses one of the four an only reads three. It is possible that he will toss your worst, but it is also possible that he will toss your best. He said it doesn't hurt your standing to send more than three, but only three will be read and make your file.
23 years ago
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Just a note - the supplementary form required by UMDNJ (at Newark) is not for your LoR writers...rather it's a form to put your SAT/USMLE scores/etc.
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last year, i was able to attach my professional looking cv onto my medical school transcript. that way, i didn't have to sacrifice my 4th letter. so, every place i interviewed had a great looking cv and all my letters! my med school was very helpful and didn't mind scanning my cv at the end of the transcript.
23 years ago
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Must be nice to have such helpful and cooperative staff at your school! I wish that I had such luxuries! Maybe my school could call your school and get some lessons in how to do things to HELP it's own students. For some reason they just don't understand that concept!
Sorry. Just had to vent a little. :smokin: :evilgrin:
23 years ago
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Anyone been able to get the "Voluntary Id" form needed for application to Univ. of Michigan? It's mentioned on the website but I couldn't find it for downloading and I got no response to my e-mail to the dept. secretary. I guess I'll call her if you guys haven't seen the form either.
23 years ago
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University of Rochester has a form that needs to be filled out by the Chairman of the department at your school and I think Iowa requires MCAT and SAT scores

I see that "NJ med school" requires some stuff,
does anyone know which program in Jersy

Thanks :pimp:
23 years ago
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NJ Med is the Newark program, which is different than the UMDNJ program in New Brunswick. I can't believe Newark needs my friggin undergrad info.

I'm having nightmares of endless lines of hoops...everywhere I look...hoops
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23 years ago
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The University of Iowa website also indicates that in addition to sending a scanned med school transcript via ERAS, you should mail a hard copy of your college transcript to them at:

University of Iowa Hosptials & Clinics
Dept. of Orthopaedic Surgery 01008JPP
C/O Jeanette Marsh
Iowa City, IA 52242-1009
(319)356-2595
23 years ago
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Case Western Requires an Undergraduate Transcript.

Anyone know of the other programs that requires Undergraduate Transcripts?

I think the best thing to do (especially if your applying to more than 20 programs) is to just go ahead and submit four to all the programs. I highly doubt anyone is gonna hold you from an interview for submitting one more LOR than what they require.
23 years ago
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I know alot of pixels have been spilt over this one is the past, but after getting that HJD book (previous post), I'd be hesitant to send any more LOR's than what's asked. Zuckerman mentions like twice or three times that it looks bad and shows 'lack of attention to detail' to send more than asked for. So i dunno. dosent seem like should be a big deal, i agree, but i guess you shouldn't bend over for the soap and give em a reason to f- you. ):)
23 years ago
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This has already been mentioned a bunch, but I know Newark wants undergrad. transcripts. Just curious, where did you see that Case wants this info. as well?

I'm sending 4 letters unless the programs specifies otherwise on their webpage. No way I'm calling everywhere to ask.
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