By Guest on Tuesday, 09 February 2010
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The data in the 2009 Charting Outcomes in the Match document from NRMP suggests strong match probability for those U.S. seniors who ranked 11 or more Ortho programs in 2009. It seems that over 91% of U.S. seniors matched last year who had 8 or more contiguous ranks. And 95% of U.S. seniors matched last year who had 11 or more contiguous ranks. I wish I could play poker with those odds:)
http://www.nrmp.org/data/index.html
I ranked 19 programs last year and didn't match.
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That sucks a lot. I certainly don't mean to salt anyone. After going though this a second time, what things have you done differently?

I know that even though the chances (95%+) are spectacular with 11,12,13....19 contiguous ranks, there are always anomalies and outliers. And no one is "safe".

Thanks for any insights that can help.
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the point is that the # of ranks doesn't mean jack squat. You rank 1 program and still match. A program has to like you, and that's it.. when you get to doing a lot of interviews like I did last year.. you become jaded, and I think that shows, and you don't think the game needs to be played.. but it does.. oh boy it does.
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the point is that the # of ranks doesn't mean jack squat. You rank 1 program and still match. A program has to like you, and that's it.. when you get to doing a lot of interviews like I did last year.. you become jaded, and I think that shows, and you don't think the game needs to be played.. but it does.. oh boy it does.


Statistically the # of ranks matter. I am a numbers person. I choose to trust the statistics from the NRMP. Each person can have their on opinion about it.

Although there are many variables that go into who matches, only 36% of the 146 US seniors who ranked 5 programs or less last year matched. Conversely, 64% failed to match. I would argue that is statistically relevant. I interpret this to mean: To increase your chances of matching, do all you can to receive as many interview invites as possible, interview as best you can at 11 - 16 programs, and rank all programs that you could live with matching at.

I agree with you that doing more interviews can make you either:

A) Jaded - feeling you're an "absolute lock" after hearing all the, "what can we do to get you here", combined with post-interview calls and e-mails saying your great and ranked to match, ranked highly or whatever. Therefore you decline to contact programs, play the game etc.

B) Exhausted - I think its tough for applicants to keep up their true level of excitement, positive body language, and game face on their 15th interview. Especially if it's the 4th interview of a mini-tour long weekend that went: social night/interview/social night/interview/FLIGHT/interview/FLIGHT/social night/interview.

- I agree with you that at some point, killing yourself to do 20 interviews can produce some diminishing returns.

- Clearly, it does only take one program to match. And it only takes one program to "like" you, or in other words, rank you high enough to match. However, I would approach the process in a manner that gives me and my paper application the best probability of matching. That means interviewing well and often and it means playing the interview and post-interview game well, and it means ranking as many programs as you can live with.

- I don't like any situation that yields a 36% success outcome. If I did find myself in that situation, with 5 or less programs on my ROL, I would certainly do anything humanly possible to try and move myself up the list of those programs. Sometimes your efforts will be futile and wont make a difference. Sometimes they might help. Who knows.

I think you nailed it on the head. The game needs to be played to a degree and certainly played well.

Good luck to all this year in the match!
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