The Gateway to Your Orthopaedic Career.
  Tuesday, 14 December 2004
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Does anyone know of any specific northeast programs historically known for employing atypical/high pressure interview tactics, e.g. sewing cheese, playing operation while interviewing, interpreting abstract art, etc.

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Does anyone know of programs with "pimp rooms."

-So far, I've encountered neither of these situacions but I've been told they exist.
21 years ago
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I've heard that HSS makes you build an atomic weapon out of paper clips while singing Wagner's 'Die Valkure' backwards and blindfolded, standing on one leg in a tub of hydrochloric acid.

Compared to that, sewing cheese sound pretty easy, unless it's mascarpone.....then they're about even.

Just a rumor, not verified.

Lifestillsux

P.S. - If you eat the cheese, do you fail the test?
21 years ago
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Oh yeah,

Regarding the 'pimp rooms', I've heard nothing, although the Champagne room at Scores in NYC is very pleasant if you are into that kind of thing.....not that I am.
I'm happily married, I swear....never even been there....promise...scout's honor
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21 years ago
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Irvine had a pimp room last year. Doubt anything has changed.
21 years ago
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At Mt. Sinai Dr. Hausman has you suture pieces of craft cheese together, draw a picture of a body part or whatever you choose, and critique art. I don't think he really cares how you do, it is just to see if you can multitask. In another room at Sinai you have to play the game operation. The attending last year made it optional and stated that he did not care how you did. There is also a knowledge room at Sinai.

A number of other East Coast programs have X-ray interpretation rooms (LIJ comes to mind). Basic stuff like SER IV ankle fractures, IT vs FNFx etc. Review the classification systems for bread-and-butter fractures. If you are not sure of the exact fracture pattern then just describe what you see (ie. there is a fracture of the medial malleolus etc.).

Enjoy
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21 years ago
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u of south alabama brought three of us in a room at one time and gave us a pop quiz in anatomy --- not that big of a deal compared to stories above though...

J
21 years ago
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when i was interviewing (i am a pgy3) i remember the following places
wash u - read trauma xray (mine was a anterior hip dislocation)
u of MO - draw a cross section of the calf
akron - asked if i could be any animal what would it be and why
somewhere also asked what three people in history i would eat dinner with if i could choose (i dont remember what I said, but it did catch me off guard)
21 years ago
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Will someone behind the scenes please tell me how this kind of nonsense has any reflection of our performance in residency?????

What they heck are they looking for?

If we all have 235+ board scores, nice grades, etc- don't they think we'll learn enough by the time we hit PGY2?

How does sewing cheese, playing 'Operation', reading x-rays, and pimping us on anatomy have any reflection of our capabilities in residency??- especially when some of us have been spending the last 16 weeks doing cards, peds, psych, and medicine rotation- nothing to do with ortho right now, trying to get grad requirements in... oh and studying for step 2.

I plan to do a damn good job in residency, and pimping me anatomy minutiae while I'm focusing on treating CHF patients right now, has little reflection on my future capabilities. Most of us aced anatomy, the boards, and the surgery clerkship, is this not sufficient?

I think that goes for most of us.

If these programs are seriously judging us on our ortho knowledge right now, they are losing out on applicants who will do an outstanding job in residency.
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21 years ago
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Interviewed at WashU this year where I was asked to interpret a pelvic radiograph (right acetabular fracture). Seemed like the interviewers were looking more at your approach to interpreting the film i.e identify what type of film, quality, etc etc before looking for pathology and diagnosis. After interpreting the film, the interviewers gave me a model of the pelvis and had me delineate the fracture line. I was not explicitly pimped on anatomy (although anatomy knowledge is implicit in interpreting the radiograph and localizing the pathology) or asked to classify a fracture or give different treatment choices. I thought this was fair as most of us at this point should at least know the overall approach to reading a radiograph and noting the most obvious pathology i.e "that just doesn't look right".

Some of the other things people have listed seem pretty ridiculous. Suturing cheese? critique art? assessing ability to multitask? classification of fractures? If I wanted to suture cheese, I would have chosen a career in the dairy industry, would have become an artist to critique art. We've all made it through med school and in general have done much better than the "average" medical student so we sure as hell know how to multitask. How about being in rotations, finding funding for interviews, making airport and hotel reservations, finding someone to take call for you while you're away on interviews and all the other crap you need to do just to go on a few interviews? I will admit that right now I don't even know how to classify most of the everyday bread and butter fractures. Will someone please remind me again of why I'm applying for an orthopaedic residency?
In this sense, I agree with Cain. Most of us are hard working people. We've done well in med school (clerkships, boards, etc) and are determined to do well in residency. I don't understand how most of these 2 minute dexterity tasks will reflect on our performance in residency.
21 years ago
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Quick Cain, answer this question:

Why did they choose round as the shape for manhole covers?

Serious question. I got it once.
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