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  Wednesday, 14 August 2002
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Why is it that all of you ortho people (mostly I notice from the midwest) refuse to answer about what life is like post-residency. There are those of us who would like to know that we can have a 40-50 hour work week after we have trained for 5 years (plus medical school plus fellowship) and still make a decent living while getting to watch our children grow-up. Perhaps some of you out there will be able to answer this question without referrign to previous posts or random surveys. ANyone who can speak from 1st hand experience and not what they have heard/read would be greatly appreciated.
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23 years ago
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Thank you medmoneycracker. I agree! I have been asking many of the attendings at my program and the standard reply is life after residency is what you make of it. But, what I want to know and I think what you want to know is there really anyone out there who really works only 40-50 hrs/week. Do these people giving us the standard reply actually know anyone who has had this experience.
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23 years ago
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Whoa, before things heat-up here. ..First, Ortho Doc, who said that ortho is what you make of it, is an attending. I am sure he is not making things up and can speak from experience and from the lifestyle of associates. Also, this is the forum for med students who are going into ortho, although a few from previous years have kept in contact (interns, for instance). The vast majority of us in the forum have not yet become attendings and cannot answer the lifestyle question from experience.
23 years ago
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Maybe all "us ortho people" refuse to answer you because your posts make you sound like a d&*k!
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Your question is like asking how many hours per week does someone study in med school. Obviously it varies according to personal preference, drive, and goals in life. So chill dude.
23 years ago
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Great reply Dr. Sawbonz...right on.

You want actual numbers? Try less than 80/week. See new rules (thread on fire).


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23 years ago
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I think you can find a family medicine job for the hours your looking for.
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23 years ago
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Whoa! I was under the impression we would be working the 40 as I made of it, hitting the lynx fri-sun in the summer, and skiing in Aspen (where the beer flows like wine) during the winter weekends. Oh well, where was that dermatology forum url......
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23 years ago
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You can work as little or as hard as you want. If you want details you need to talk to multiple ortho docs in varying practice environments.

For myself, starting my third year of practice, I work a four day week. Two full days in the office and two full days in the OR. I go in around 7:15 am and on clinic days I am home by 5:30 and on OR days I am usually home by 4:00 pm. So roughly, I work about 40 hours each week, but you must also add the four days of month of call I take which adds a few hours in there. So probably no more than 45-50 hours per week, unless I have a weekend of call. Now I practice where reimbursement is still fairly good, except Medicare, so we don't work as hard as docs in other areas of the country. I also chose my practice knowing that I would have a full day off every week. Many of my friends do not, so their hours are probably more. Also, my friends who practice where reimbursement is lower tend to work alot more hours, running longer clinics to make the same amount of money.

The question comes down to how much money do you want to make? The more you work, the more you get paid in most practices. If you want to make more than $500,000/yr, you're going to need to work everyday of the week and log in long days. If you are happier with $350,000 then you'll be home for dinner every night and may even have a day off every week. So as I said before, it is what you make of it. There is a job out there for everyone's lifestyle. You just have to pick the group right that allows you to practice and to work as hard or as little as you like.
23 years ago
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Thanks for the reply OrthoDoc. As a fourth year, the question of lifestyle after residency is one that I have had difficulty getting a straight answer on.
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23 years ago
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Thanks to orthodoc for the reply.

One must also take into account quality of life. Now I could do anesthesia, be in every day at 6:30 am and home by 3 pm. But I'd be absolutely miserable. I'm getting my teeth kicked in right now, but I go home happy, and I wake up looking forward to going into the hospital. And the only down part of my day is when some medicine resident calls me about knee pain and doesn't have plain films. Do I call you about crushing chest pain with no ekg????!!!! sorry, having flashbacks. But seriously, you can work 40 hours and be miserable or put in 80 and love life. Hopefully you can find both.
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Thank you Orthodoc. I truly appreciate your reply. This is the information I have been trying to ascertain. And to everyone else, I am not opposed to working hard, but family life is very important and I am not willing to sacrifice my personal life, to end-up in divorce court, for career happines. On the flip side I love ortho! Ortho was the one rotation that I wasn't watching the clock wondering when do I get to leave. I didn't want the day to end and always looked forward to the next day. I don't think I have ever been so tired and so happy at the same time in my life. I don't know what else in medicine would make me happy.
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