PatellarTracking
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Which books would you guys reccomend for reference for "pimp" questions for third year ortho rotations and away rotations? Any advice would be helpful. Also, I think it would be very helpful for us youngins if the seniors would post their match and stats. (Good idea Orthores). Thanks everyone for your ideas.
BigDiesel44
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The pimp questions that you will be expected to know on rotations will be anatomy questions. Most places expect a 4th year medical student to know that stuff, but not orthopaedic specifics. So make sure you still have some anatomy books. The other book I recommend is Physical Examination of the Spine and Extremities by Hoppenfeld. It is well known and widely used. If you really wanted to go overboard you can buy Surgical Exposures in Orthopaedics, also by Hoppenfeld.
hangman
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Essentials of Orthopaedic Surgery by Wiesel and Delahay is a very good book for intro orthopaedics. It is very readable and contains many "pearls" that you may be expected to know on an ortho elective.
IamNikolas
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essentials by Wiesel is a really good intro book.
I loved Hoppenfield's surgical Exposures book -- spend a lot of time on this (and your anatomy notes or whatever you used to learn anatomy) and there is no way you can miss any anatomy pimping sessions. I spent a lot of time reading this book, and really felt confident during cases that i could handle any anatomy question they threw at me.
IamNikolas
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by the way, it's really pricey (like 190 bucks) but well worth it. You'll need it in residency as well...and anatomy won't change so it's a good investment i think.
Bone Jock
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If you end up rotating on spine (as I did) during your 4th year rotation, Hoppenfeld neurological exam book is excellent. It's an easy read (for us ortho types) and it's pretty hi yield for an ortho rotation. It costs the same as the Green Hoppenfeld book (examination of the spine and extremities), but it's about half the size. I didn't buy Hoppenfeld's surgical exposures, but I thought it was excellent also. I also found that I didn't get "pimped" nearly as much on any of my ortho rotations as I did on G-surg during 3rd year.
PatellarTracking
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Thanks a lot for all of the responses. And which books are best for general surgery pimping?
BigDiesel44
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I also rarely got pimped on my ortho rotations. For general surgery, Surgical Recall has great info for pimp questions.
Bone Jock
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Yeah,
Surgical recall was definitely the best pocket book of 3rd year. Don't study it, just flip through it the night before, or right before you go into the OR. Especially if you know the OR schedule the night prior.
For the shelf exam, I studied Essentials of G-surg by Lawrence. And I did questions out of Surgery pretest. Probably the best book in the pretest series.
bonedoc2be
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i did almost exactly what bonejock said for gsurg and got in the high 90's. Pretest is definatly good for surg
boney
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I agree w/everyone's comments. For questions I recommend Appleton and Lange's Surgery questions book, with extra attention given to the Gen Surg, Trauma, and GI (and also vascular if have extra time) sections. Read and understand all the explanations. Keep your mindset focused on management of the patient rather than just a dx. i.e. what is the next step?... emergency lap, CT, explore, pack and close, etc.
Good luck.
kirch14
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I actually think that the book by Bruce Reider, THe Orthopaedic Physical Examination, is much more complete. Hoppenfeld doesn't even include the Lachman exam in it. Reider's book is complete with pictures and also a good description of what the test is helping you find out on your exam.
