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PK paul kim
9.6
2 December 2010

University of Washington, Orthopaedic Surgery Resi

Staff Surgeons
10.0
Didactics/Teaching
9.0
Operating Experience
8.0
Clinical Experience
9.0
Research
10.0
Residents
10.0
Lifestyle
10.0
Location
10.0
Overall Experience
10.0

Program Review

Staff / Faculty / Chairman
From top to bottom, UW provides residents exposure to well experienced/published surgeons who are all approachable, excellent teachers and distinguished in their respective fields. Just to name a few, there is Dr. Routt (pelvis guru), Dr. Benirschke (he developed the Zimmer periarticular plate), Dr. Hanel (wizard when it comes to hand surgery), etc... Almost all of the attendings teach at AO courses, scope courses, and its easy to come across many of the published material from the attendings in JBJS, JOT (eg, Dr. Nork, Dr. Hansen, Dr. Leopold)

Currently the chair position is TBD but the interim Chair, Dr. Chapman is an endowed chair for Synthes spine and very well respected in the the spine community. The past chair, Dr. Matsen, wrote the book, "The Shoulder."

The ancillary staff at Harborview, UW, VA, Childrens are amazing. For example, there are NP's at Harborview to help the intern out with floor work. At Childrens, there is a hospitalist to take all the pain medications and tylenol calls while you concentrate on taking care of ortho consults.
Didactics / Teaching
Monday morning conference occurs from 7-10 am, these are dictated on a 2 year rotating curriculum that focus on anatomy, clinical presentation & exam, OITE q's, and are usually followed with either a dry sawbone or wet anatomy lab.

Grand rounds occur once a month every Wed, these are usually televised on UW TV.

Each service is different in terms of the teaching sessions, for instance, at Harborview there is fracture conference every Mon afternoon, every Fri there is chapter review of Skeletal Trauma that alternates with hand dissection.
Operating Experience
Each rotation offers different experiences.

Harborview Trauma, it depends, but there usually is a a fellow & attending in one OR and the chief and attending in the other. The junior gets to chose between and the experience varies depending on the complexity of the case from holding hook for really complex cases such as acetab fx, to drilling & placing screws, reaming and placing nails, suturing etc. Its not common for the junior to operate skin to skin but it does happen for junior level cases such as an isolated lateral malleolus fracture.

VA experience is awesome, the junior does all amputations from toes, rays, BKA, TFA and occasionally assists in TKA & THA. The upper levels operate with a ton of autonomy and operate on total shoulders, TKA/THA/TAA, DHS, etc...

F&A you work with Dr. Bernirske, Hansen, Sangeorzan.

UW you get total joints, sports, shoulder with Matsen etc...

Peds is peds.

VM you operate with community physicians and operate on a ton of joints.

Tumor operative experience is a potpourri of everything since Chappie Conrad basically does everything from large amputations to THA.
Clinic Experience
The gem for this program is the trauma experience at Harborview that is seriously second to none. Its a level 1 trauma center that covers Washington, Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, & northern Oregon.

It gets pretty busy during the summertime and your consults range in the mid to high 20's but during winter the consults dwindle to plateau fracture
5. L open 5th PIPJ fracture-dislocation
6. L2 vertebral body fracture with retropulsion & neuro deficits
7. C1 fx and C2 Type II dens fx, T4 & T8 vertebral body compression fx
8. R both bone forearm fx
9. T1 inferior facet fx, T3 spinous process fx, R coracoid fx
10. L mangled foot from lawnmower accident
11. L lateral malleolus fracture
12. R supracondylar femur fx
13. R midshaft humerus fx, R both both bone forearm fx, open L hand with MC fx, L distal 1/3 femur fx, R comminuted mid-diaphyseal femur fx, R both bone forearm fx
14. L open pilon fx
15. R posterior wall post column acetab fx and L IT proximal femur fx with reverse obliquity pattern
16. C1 & C2 fx, R scapula fx with extension into glenoid
17. C1 fx
Research Opportunities
The opportunities are tremendous. Having a wealth of resources in attendings you will find something that interests you. To graduate you need to have at least one "publishable" project.
Residents
We spend a lot of time outside the hospital such as BBQs, skiing/boarding, having a beer, etc...

All of us are different and come from various backgrounds but share one common thread, we all work hard.
Lifestyle
Even during the busiest year of your residency, your 2nd year, you still have time to do things outside such as ski/board since Mt.Baker, Crystal and Stevens are a short 2 hour drive away. There are plenty of trails to go hiking. If your not into the outdoors, there are a ton of restaurants, the nightlife is sweet, you can find live music any day of the week from punk/alternative at the croc to jazzy blues at paragon.
Location / Housing
Housing is not cheap but affordable, about 1/2 of my class own homes.

The good thing about Seattle are the numerous small neighborhoods and each has its own flavor. For instance, there is Capital Hill which is a flavor of metro/hipster, Queene Anne is young professionals, Greenlake/Wallingford is for young families, etc...

Seattle it rains quite a bit, but the summer here is amazing! When it rains it drizzles and there are bouts of sunshine to break up the gloomy days.
Limitations
The sports is not the strong suit for this program but it is improving. We've added one of our recent grads as staff and he is bringing in more sports exp into our program.

The operative exp at Harborview depends on the complexity of the case, but for other services such as hand your operative exp is excellent.

Its a large program but its nice because we all know each other and most of us spend time outside the hospital together.
Overall Rotation Experience / Conclusion
I never rotated here as a medical student but wish I had, it would have been a great experience.

For future rotators, if you decide to come here for a sub-I, it will probably be the hardest you will work while in medical school but you will come out having done distal femoral traction pins, splints, reductions, knee injections, etc... You will also see things some people never see while in residency.

We do NOT interview all rotators.

We only interview those that do a spectacular job and will make excellent residents. Again, we do NOT interview all rotators.

We attract the best of the best and if you rotate here its your chance to show us why you are creme de la creme.

For interviewees, when you come here check out the local area, get to know the residents and you'll find that we are all normal people who you can easily have a nice conversation with and hang out.

Residency training here will prepare you for any fellowship, you might not have the same case load as some community programs but you will come out of this program "fearless" in terms of your operative skill and orthopedic surgery knowledge.

Qualification

Qualification
I am a current resident of this program.
Date of Rotation
2009-2014
Updated 31 January 2013
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EM Edward Moon
9.8
6 November 2010

UW ortho

Staff Surgeons
10.0
Didactics/Teaching
9.0
Operating Experience
10.0
Clinical Experience
10.0
Research
9.0
Residents
10.0
Lifestyle
10.0
Location
10.0
Overall Experience
10.0

Program Review

Staff / Faculty / Chairman
Jens Chapman is the interim chairman and we are currently undergoing a chair search. We have interviewed several candidates and a new chair will be selected in the near future. I can tell you that all of the candidates including Dr. Chapman have been very impressive and will only add to this program.

Our faculty is a huge strength of this program. We have some of the most respected surgeons representing every subspecialty of orthopaedics. Not only are they technically gifted, but they are amazing teachers and role models. Dr. Matsen, our former chairman, is the prime example of someone who is dedicated to teaching and providing excellent patient care. Attendings here are very approachable, friendly, and appreciate the hard work that we do. I can tell you it makes a huge difference learning how to operate from people that care about your education and are good at what they do.

The best part of this program is that the faculty is very responsive to resident needs. We have monthly meetings with the chair/PD to voice our concerns and because of this we've enacted many positive changes even in the past few years.
Didactics / Teaching
We have Monday morning conference every week and grand rounds on Wednesday once a month. Each site also has their own academic conferences about once a week. We have been developing a two year rotating curriculum to make sure that every topic is covered in depth. Our new ISIS lab is a full service surgical skills facility where we can do dissections and sawbones labs.
Again, having experienced faculty sharing their knowledge is a great advantage of being here.
Operating Experience
Always a big concern for prospective residents since we are an academic program with fellows. However, I can honestly say that this has never been an issue for me. As a junior, the fellows are a great resource and can take you through cases. As a senior, there is enough volume so that you don't overlap (i.e. two rooms with a fellow in one and you in the other). The expectation here is that residents should be doing any case a general orthopedist would do. Additionally we have plenty of rotations without fellows including sports, joints, VA, and Virginia Mason to name a few. As I near the end of my training I feel very comfortable in the operating room and cant believe how much I've learned.
Clinic Experience
You will see lots of bread and butter ortho, but also the complex cases that get referred to tertiary care. Our catchment area includes five states! (Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, Idaho). Believe me, you will see things here that you wont see anywhere else. Not to mention Harborview is basically the only level 1 trauma for all these states.
Research Opportunities
This will likely be the next big push. We have a very productive research faculty and are currently trying to get residents more involved in basic science research. We have one dedicated research rotation in the third year. There are also plenty of clinical research opportunities if you are interested.
Residents
In my opinion the best part of the program (clearly I am biased). But seriously we have an amazing group of people that are hard workers, fun to be around, socialize outside of work, like to play outdoors, and will be there anytime you need them.
Lifestyle
Pretty much all home call except for your 4.5 months as an R2 at Harborview. Harborview ER can be busy as the R2, but you learn a tremendous amount about fracture care and efficiency. Its funny because I didn't even realize that Harborview was known for trauma when I matched (didn't rotate here) but its probably one of the best hospitals Ive ever worked at, and definitely a gem of this program. We are strictly adherent to the 80 hour work week, and outside of the R2 year I don't think its ever even close to being an issue. Ive had an amazing time exploring Seattle and the rest of the pacific northwest.
Location / Housing
Seattle is amazing. There are so many great neighborhoods. The food, entertainment, culture, outdoors activities, and people are top notch.
Limitations
some people say that our sports is weak....if you were to twist my arm and make me pick something then i guess i would agree. However, in the last few years we've made some great changes including: a week long arthroscopy course which we do as R3's and again as R4's, a new sports trained attending (former UW grad) at the VA who is an awesome teacher, and a newer shoulder surgeon who has about %50 arthroscopic practice. Matching for fellowships is also not a problem as 4 of my classmates will be doing sports next year.
Overall Rotation Experience / Conclusion
This is a ridiculously long review, but I just want people to know how much I've enjoyed my time here. You will find that there is no best program, just one that works for you. UW is a great option and I feel very lucky to have trained here.

Qualification

Qualification
I am a current resident of this program.
Date of Rotation
2006-2011
Updated 31 January 2013
0
RM Richard Myers
9.1
20 December 2008

UW by away rotator on Shoulder/Elbow service...

Staff Surgeons
10.0
Didactics/Teaching
7.0
Operating Experience
8.0
Clinical Experience
10.0
Research
9.0
Residents
10.0
Lifestyle
10.0
Location
9.0
Overall Experience
9.0

Program Review

Staff / Faculty / Chairman
Huge names across the board, but surprisingly approachable. Complete representation of every specialty. Dr. Matsen is one of the best chairman in the country. Probably weakest in sports, however, fellowship opportunities are not an issue.
Didactics / Teaching
Good, but certainly not the best selling point of the program. Monday mornings are an extended didactic day. Subspecialty conferences vary.
Operating Experience
Very strong operating experience, however there are many fellows at UW. Residents seem to have a slightly top-heavy operating experience, although it really varies by rotation.
Clinic Experience
Nice facilities. Relaxed environment with help from mid-level providers. Good learning/teaching.
Research Opportunities
Resources available to pursue whatever you might want.
Residents
A great group, from top to bottom. Close knit. Mix of married/single/families. Many residents like the outdoors.
Lifestyle
A busy program, but a great lifestyle nonetheless. Harborview time probably the most taxing. Residents are able to enjoy time away from the hospital as well.
Location / Housing
Seattle/Pacific NW-- a great place to live. Plenty of arts and culture, mountains and beaches, skiing, fishing, and hiking. A very bike friendly area.
Limitations
Delayed operating experience/fellows (although not much of an issue).
Overall Rotation Experience / Conclusion
Shoulder rotation was great-- mix of time with Dr. Matsen doing a lot of total shoulders, and Dr. Warme doing arthroscopic shoulder procedures. 2 clinic days, 2 OR days, 1 day covering another attending (joints). Plenty of time to take trauma call at Harborview as well. ER time is great for any medical student because things are so busy...

The program-- an absolute top-notch program that trains great residents who see and do it all. You couldn't go wrong here, and would get to live in a great city & in a great part of the country.

Qualification

Qualification
I rotated as a medical student at this program
Date of Rotation
2008- Shoulder and Elbow.
Updated 1 January 2012
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MM Mark Miller
9.2
17 March 2008

Rotator

Staff Surgeons
10.0
Didactics/Teaching
9.0
Operating Experience
8.0
Clinical Experience
9.0
Research
10.0
Residents
10.0
Lifestyle
7.0
Location
10.0
Overall Experience
10.0

Program Review

Staff / Faculty / Chairman
Renowned yet approachable faculty in each subspecialty. Arguably strongest trauma, foot/ankle, and tumor faculty in the country. Sports is weakest area but Matsen (shoulder) makes solid contacts for fellowships.
Didactics / Teaching
Monday morning core lectures were very good but might get old by Chief year. Weekly trauma conference is long but is educational for all levels.
Operating Experience
On Harborview trauma, the 2s are way too busy in the ER and on the floor to get to the OR often. The Trauma Chiefs were comfortable and independent in the OR and said that the operative experience is much better in the 3/4 year, when most rotations are at the UW.
Clinic Experience
Clinic is clinic. Trauma clinic could be painful in that they see 100-200 pts in a day.
Research Opportunities
The volume and variety at Harborview/UW is so large that there are plenty of papers waiting to be written. Biomechanics and basic science research is also well supported.
Residents
Tight group. I was impressed by their residents at all levels. Going through the Harborview trenches together makes the residents pretty close.
Lifestyle
Harborview can be brutal for the interns, 2s and chiefs. The 80 hr work week was stressed but fairly impossible to adhere to during the summer. Apparently, the 3/4 year is more of a "gentleman's program" in terms of hours and operative experience.
Location / Housing
Seattle is one of the coolest, most liveable cities in the world. The mountains and wilderness are within 30 minutes from downtown. Endless culture. However, Seattle is expensive and traffic blows (but not at 5 AM).
Limitations
Harborview can be killer during the summer but you will have seen every ortho emergency imagineable. I am concerned about the # of fellows but the 6 trauma added to the experience in taking 2s through cases. There were also enough bicondylar plateaus, calcs, pelvises, etc to keep the fellows busy. I dont know about the role of fellows elsewhere but there arent as many.
Overall Rotation Experience / Conclusion
Outstanding program. In comparing it to programs I interviewed at, the orthopaedic surgery training is unmatched. 2 year is painful like everywhere else but the chiefs were very happy and seemed to do well fellowship wise. Definitely the top west coast program I saw. I recommend the trauma rotation to any med student. It is hard but the ER is so busy that you will have your share of reductions, traction pins, hand whacks to make it fun.

Qualification

Qualification
I rotated as a medical student at this program
Date of Rotation
Trauma 2007
Updated 1 January 2012
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