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Hello forum,

As 3rd year is wrapping up and I am realizing that I probably won't have any published research (and probably not submitted for publication either) I am wondering the impact this will have on my application the academic programs in the Northeast (primarily NYC).
I've done reasonably well with Boards of 255 and 2/3 honors 1/3 HPs during 3rd year but my research has either moved slower than expected or gone into a dead end. Will I still be somewhat competitive for academic university programs?
Thanks for the advice
15 years ago
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You'll be golden ortho child, there arent any 255's that arent matching short of being a complete social retard...

getting into nyc is more about who your letters are from.

Obviously, if you got a 255 and honored 2/3 of your rotations, your in the top 5% of your class, so dont be a jackass and put worthless posts on here solely for the purpose of positive affirmation.

Lastly, if you went through 3 years of medical school and didn't publish, ask yourself... do you really want to go to an "academic" program? I would strongly suggest the NYC programs that are not based on a career in academics.

Anyone who has a legitimate worry about their application and how research will affect it, get back to me.
15 years ago
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I certainly did not intend this post for "positive affirmation" at all but I appreciate your frank and honest response nonetheless (except for your unnecessary vulgarity on a professional forum). The self affirmation goal you attributed to me may have been a somewhat valid suspicion had I inquired IF I would match (anywhere), not how it might impact my chances at academic centers in a competitive location.

Either way, thanks for the feedback.
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Don't thank him for that garbage feedback. Not much to be gleaned from being called a "jackass" and told not to act like a "retard". I know that people who have been on this site for years can get tired of reading people's scores and credentials, but that's what the forum is for, to be able to ask whatever questions you want and need to have answered.

What he/she was getting at is that your scores and grades are excellent, not just doing "reasonably well", so you're fine there. The fact that your research endeavors didn't result in publication in medical school has no bearing on whether or not you should go to an academic program. Lots of people who train at academic programs go out into the community and never publish again, so the fact that you don't have a publication yet doesn't mean jack. As it seems like you've figured out, research can be hit or miss, especially when you are a med student and have a very limited knowledge base and window of opportunity.

What is important is that for whatever research you've done and whatever data/conclusions you do have, try to see them through to publication/presentation, and when it comes time for interviews, know them backwards and forwards. Having research may look good on paper, but what really impresses interviewers is when you can discuss it intelligently and convey to them that you are a student who didn't just passively jump on something to build your resume, but that you actively participated and learned something from the experience.

Your application is a package and research is only one part of it. There will definitely be other applicants gunning for those top programs alongside you who have impressive lists of studies they've done. But that doesn't mean you can't get it. If you want to get into a program on the east coast, specifically in NYC, rotate there, kill it, get good letters, and go for it.
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Definitely words of wisdom. I didn't have any pubs and to be honest I was barely asked about my research even at the academic places. They just wanted a quick 2 min spiel and we moved on from there to talk about the other parts of my application.
14 years ago
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Well said; thanks for sharing this.
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