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  Saturday, 09 August 2008
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Dear Drs,
I am an IMG.
How to improve my chance to get a position?
I heard that in the rank list, the first IMG will follow the last AMG.
Is it true?
Thanks
17 years ago
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Dude , yes thats true , there are no IMG friendly spots , cos no one prefers an IMG here in Ortho , U gotta work up the order here , you would need to have US research experience at least 2-3 years and even then your chances are 1 in 100 at best
17 years ago
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The fact is that there ARE programs out there with IMGs that haven't done "2-3 years of US research." Some that I met were at: Virginia Commonwealth, Wake Forest, UT-San Antonio.
17 years ago
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Thanks Dr. orthoguy11 and Dr. orthobash,
In terms of Wake Forest, 5 yrs and 7 yrs, which is easy to enroll?
If there is a chance, what kind of factor matters?
thanks
17 years ago
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don't have specifics on Wake, but in general your chances are maximized by doing everything an USMG does but probably better - that means high scores on the USMLE steps, awesome grades, and likely a fair amount of research, hopefully in the US.

If it's what you want, I say go for it. as mentioned above, though, ortho is tough to get into for USMG's as it is (here's hoping I match in March); be prepared to put in a few years in the lab...best of luck
17 years ago
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thanks
will do
17 years ago
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Do any of you know any D.O.'s in allopathic residencies... Iknow I'm pushing my luck here, but I'd at least like to know if it is possible. My understanding is that the chances are, at best, the same as an international graduate.
17 years ago
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I think last year 4 DO's matched into allopathic residencies. According to Dr. Levine at Columbia, applicants there whether DO or MD are viewed the same and there is no preference given to MD's over DO's. If this is true at all places, email the programs and find out.

Also, unless you really want a certain location for certain reasons, there might be no DO ortho program so you apply MD; otherwise I feel that many qualified DO's, who could match MD, don't take the chance and go to a DO ortho residency as they will learn the exact same thing as an MD residency.

Here is what Dr. Levine said]Up to this point we have received 370 applications for our 6 residency positions at Columbia (if numbers hold out like the last 11 years we will eventually have ~500 applications). Only 3 of the 370 applications are from DO students but these 3 applications are reviewed just like the others as I have outlined in previous posts (USLME scores, medical school performance - especially 3rd year clinical grades, letters of recommendation, research experience, undergraduate performance).

At the end of the day, however, I think all students (osteopathic and allopathic) need to evaluate their strengths and weaknesses and determine with the help of their faculty supervisors/mentors how competitive they will be in one of the most difficult specialties to match. I meet with students all the time (admittedly mostly allopathic since that's where I work) and we candidly review their application and there are some students who I counsel to strongly consider another specialty given their situation and others who I counsel to at least strongly consider a back-up plan if they unfortunately do not match in orthopaedics.

I would give you the exact same advice - understand the strengths and weaknesses of your application and act accordingly. I am not sure it would be wise to forgo the osteopathic pathway so I would defer to your mentors on that question.[/quote]
17 years ago
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thank you, OrthoChiDO... I am actually hoping to stay in a particular area... my wife owns a business that we'd like to keep going... plus it would give her something to do. I know the odds are stacked against me (statistically), but I really like ortho... who knows, the orthopedists I know might help me out. Thanks for your assistance... are you at the Chicago DO school?
17 years ago
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No, I'm at another DO school, but I'd like to go back to Chicago for rotations and residency. (6 MD ortho programs and 1 DO) only time will tell!
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