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I know this is a topic that's been discussed on here in the past, but I wanted to bring it back up because there are so many people on here who are getting mostly clinical honors. I simply cannot relate. For most of our clinical rotations, 15% of students get H, 35% get HP, and 50% get P with grades determined by being curved against our classmates rather than absolute thresholds. I'm on my surgery rotation now and recently got my medicine grade back after working my heart out. High pass. Devastated. OB and Psych were also high pass. Family med I got merely passed. My only honors so far has been Peds.

My shortcomings have been varied. I got 95th percentile on the medicine shelf, but a tough-grading attending made it statistically impossible to be in the top 15% (evals were 60% of the course grade and most attendings give very generous evals). Similar story with OB. Rocked the shelf, 1 of my 3 evals (by a resident) was horrid, and missed H by 0.6%. But it's not always evals. Psych we had an in-house test, struggled with it, and missed H by 0.8% despite a near perfect eval. Same situation for family, missing HP by 0.9%. Of course these close misses don't mean squat because transcripts show letter grades when it's all said and done.

Both clinical grades and AOA ride hand-in-hand at my school and are pinnacle on your application. At this point, AOA is... well, let's say pretty much not gonna happen. Of course I'm working by @$$ off for honors in surgery. That all said, can a student be realistically desirable for the more competitive programs with so few honors and not AOA? Sorry for being such a worry wart. Matching is so stressful...


Other stuff: Step 1 in 260-265 range. Non-top 40 private US MD. Nearly all honors M1 and M2 years. 2 pubs (neither first author) and finalizing two more this year as 1st and 3rd authors (none of these 4 are ortho; decided ortho late). I have around a dozen abstracts/presentations and will graduate from our Research Track. Tons and tons of school involvement, tutoring, volunteering, and leadership.
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Grades never really came up in any interview I went on except for how they were calculated because my school is very non-traditional in those regards. To say if they were a part of the screening process, I'm not sure. You will be a strong applicant with your other stuff, and I know it's difficult to feel good about at this point, you have a great chance at matching.
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My school isn't quite as rigid as yours with grading, but it still isn't easy to honor clerkships here. I was fortunate to honor most of my clerkships, but many of my friends weren't so lucky. They were jealous of students from many of the top 20 schools, where nearly everybody gets honors for showing up.

It's unfortunate that residencies place such a huge emphasis on clinical grades in selection of applicants for interviews, but they have to. Outside of doing an away at that program, it is the best proxy that programs have to judge your clinical performance. Same thing with AOA, it is indicative that you are a good student. When you have so many qualified applicants for a limited number of spots, the programs end up choosing arbitrary screening criteria to get their applications down to a reasonable number.

At this point, you can't worry about your grades because they are already set in stone. You should focus on things you can control, like where you rotate, how hard you work on those rotations, research projects to work on, how hard you study for Step 2CK, and who you ask for letters of recommendation. Your Step 1 score is great, and you have some nice research accomplishments, but you want to make sure you check off as many boxes as possible to give yourself the best shot to match well. Without AOA or many clinical honors, you might get screened out at the more competitive programs where you don't rotate. So if you really want a program, consider rotating there. At the same time, be realistic. Don't rotate at all top tier programs, because it is just too risky in today's applicant environment.

Good luck.
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Thanks a bunch for the quick responses. I really appreciate it.

Yeah, it's definitely frustrating to hear about the grade inflation at some other schools where 40-60% of the students are getting Honors in every rotation. Those schools know how to "play the game." Can't say I'm not jealous.

Thanks butterfingerbbs for the tips moving forward. My plan is do my home rotation in July, do aways in August and September hopefully in my target region, and take Step 2 CK in either October or November pending schedule adjustments. I'm also going to try to jump in on a quick ortho project so have that on my app. I can't imagine, but would a high CK score indicate good clinical knowledge that isn't reflected in my clinical grades, or is that not necessarily how it's viewed?
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