Program's rank order list

This information is definitely not published. It is talked about at some interviews but is often of questionable reliability.

Yeah you will only find this info from people on the committee, i.e.- attendings are chief residents.

Does anyone have any examples that programs have told them? I'd be interested to hear.

yea....USF matches their top 6-8 every year.....

USF matched all 4 spots out of their top 7 last year

Harvard said they went to Mid 20's for their 12 spots last year

HSS went to 9 for their 8 spots I think

Cleveland Clinic went to 8 for their 6 spots


That's all I remember off the top of my head.

Actually, CCF matched top six because two of their top 8 spots were their own CCF med students who ended up at their top choices at other hospitals.

UIC went to 9 for their 7 spots.

General rule is that programs usually don't go below 2xnumber of spots they offer.

It seems that if the programs barely go below their top spots, they must know who is going to say "yes". Even the top programs are still vying for the top candidates, so it would seem that they wouldnt be able to predict exactly who would want to go to HSS vs Pitt vs Stanford etc.

Is it the post-interview contact that helps programs definitively gauge an applicant's interest?

In talking with current residents at my program, it seems like a lot of them really committed to this program and made visits back after interview to demonstrate commitment. Is that true all over the country? Will we essentially pick the program thats number one and court them up through Match Day?

There are several things you should know about all ortho programs:
1. 95th percentile on the OITE every year
2. Match their top ranked applicants every year.
3. They operate early.

Pretty much heard that at every interview I went on.

Here's the bottom line - there is no way that every program can match their "top 6 for 6 spots"! If a program waits to get feedback and re-adjusts their list then they will always match higher on their list of course. For programs like ours where we do the list immediately and do not ask for feedback we let the match do it's magic and see if we went very high or somewhere a bit lower.

Good luck all

wnl

I was reading through some of the NRMP literature the other day and it was talking about the applicant ranking programs that they hadn't interviewed at. Do programs ever rank people that they didn't interview? I would think no, but thought I'd ask.

No, programs do not rank people they have not interviewed -

wnl

in part because they alter their ROL based on who show's interest

There are some programs that do this, but the only ones I heard of that do it are prelim year spots in medicine, etc.