Med School: Southeast
Boards: Step 1: 245, Step 2: 263 (took July of 4th year)
Rank: top 10%
AOA: n/a
Preclinicals: top 10%
Clinicals: top 10%
Ortho: Pass on a P/F scale, did a 2 week elective 3rd year, one month rotation 4th year.
Aways: Home rotation + 2 aways. Emory in Atlanta, GA and CMC in Charlotte, NC. Neither were reach programs for me, I interviewed at both places. Was looking to rotate at 2 programs with different feels in the SE region. Had great rotations at both, and they accomplished what I wanted them to.
Research: Published ortho research as an undergraduate, published ortho/gen surg research during med school. Ongoing research with exercise in the spinal cord injury population. Finishing a MS in Bioengineering this spring.
Extracurriculars: ~7 years of church/other volunteering, medical mission trip, Step 2 Firecracker subject editor, chair of student grand rounds program at med school, on med school admissions committee,
What I was looking for in a Program: My main career goals are to operate (obviously!), do productive research, and to teach. So I wanted a program that does all 3 of those things well. I also wanted broad exposure to all subspecialties, with good connections to fellowship programs. Particularly looking for good hand and peds experiences. Want to have access to good research resources so I can use them when I want to, and have the opportunity to teach medical students and other residents as I become more senior. Wanted a smaller/medium sized program (4-6 per class) in a good location, at a program with a solid regional/national reputation.
How many Programs:
Applied to: 63
Offered Interviews: 13
Attended: 12
[Programs in alphabetical order in each tier]
Tier 1: Would have been thrilled to be at any of these programs. Things they have in common: great cities, all rotations are on site or close by, good balance of operative experience and academics (one doesn’t take away from the other), and my interviews at each of these places felt solid/I got good feedback.
CMC: one of the places that I rotated, they take 5 a year with one being a research resident. Their residents are from all over the place. Charlotte is an awesome city, and CMC is a well respected institution in the region. This is a place that has solid operative experience with plenty of structured/guided research time, even if you’re not the research resident. They have resources out the wazoo. They’re strong in all subspecialty rotations (including tumor), and the relationship with OrthoCarolina strengthens that. This is a polished program, where if you’re not in the OR you’re wearing a shirt and tie to conference in the morning, etc. Conference wise they have daily didactics in the morning that are led by faculty and residents, these are intermingled with journal club and grand rounds presentations. They also have an intern skills month which was a plus for me.
The negative for me here were the presence of trauma fellows--I got mixed reviews from the residents, but most of what I heard was that their presence can limit you early on, but by the time you’re a senior resident you’re able to take over more of the trauma cases in the OR. Overall, it’s an excellent program in a great city that has far more strengths than weaknesses. They get good fellowships, and the residents and attendings are all awesome people.
Greenville: another place that I rotated. They take 4 a year, and similar to CMC, have a community program feel with an academic flavor. Residents are diverse and from all over. Their operative experience is excellent, with multiple trauma rooms running at a time, with a 2nd year and an attending taking one of those rooms on most days. The double scrubbing that I saw was for educational purposes, and the older guys are great at teaching and letting the juniors feel their way through cases. They also have great subspecialty rotations (including tumor), with the Steadman Hawkins Clinic, Blue Ridge Orthopaedics (Clemson athletics), and a Shriner’s Hospital on site. The residents have a great camaraderie, and work well with the attendings. They have a mix of rotators and non-rotators (similar to CMC), and don’t solely look at numbers in their applicants. The research is streamlined with multiple full-time study personnel, with plenty of opportunities to do as many studies as you want. Only fellows are a couple of sports guys, and they don’t interfere with your sports rotation at all from what I was told. Their didactics are daily in the morning, with a variety of topics led by a mix of faculty and residents, mixed with journal club/M&M/grand rounds (like most places). They also do monthly cadaver labs. Greenville is also an awesome city--smaller than ATL or CLT, but with a lot of big city amenities, and is rapidly growing. There weren’t many negatives about this program that I could come up with (maybe other than not having a dedicated skills month for interns)--it has an awesome reputation, and is turning out great surgeons to whatever fellowships they want.
Orlando Health: knowing nearly nothing about this program going into the interview, I was incredibly impressed by the residents, faculty, and facilities. Really the whole program in general. This is a place where you get annihilated for 2 years of call, then you get your own trauma room as a 3 (really). 2nd year you do exclusively peds and hand, which was a plus for me because those are two things I’m strongly considering. Rotation wise, a downside for me personally is having to go to Tampa for Tumor rotation for 3 months. It was a great group of residents, and some of the attendings are big names who have great connections.
Vanderbilt: take 5 per year. This is a place with a big academic name, where the academic part doesn’t seem to be shoved down your throat. They get residents from all over, for obvious reasons. They have some big name faculty in multiple different areas, and the residents are getting the fellowships that they want (there’s a trend in my Tier 1 programs here). Nashville is a cool city, and has a lot to offer. From talking to residents, it sounds like you get worked your second year (like most places), but come out on the other side feeling confident and competent with ED and floor consults. From what I was told, the operative experience is good here, and the residents seemed happy. From what I remember they do daily didactics. This is another place that takes a lot of 4th year, but their residents are a mix of rotators and non-rotators. I enjoyed the residents and faculty, and the interview day as a whole. This is a program that basically speaks for itself, in that it’s well established, has been around for a long time, and has a reputation for turning out great surgeons and research.
Tier 2:
Emory: 6 residents/year. A lot of your time is spent at Grady downtown. The operative experience at Grady is awesome, with minimal to no double scrubbing and one on one time with attendings. They work on a night float call system, usually just carry pager for one service at a time but sometimes you’re on triple threat call (hand/spine/peds). Grady is an older hospital, but the Emory Ortho and Spine Hospital is top notch and super nice. Research here was a surprising weakness, but is on the up and up. One of their new trauma attendings is spending 1 day a week in a basic science lab. They definitely have the name/resources/funding to do lots of research. Didactics in the morning are service-based, but their main didactics are Thursday night and Friday morning. They do OITE review and industry-sponsored anatomy labs that are really nice. All of the attendings were great that I worked with. The residents are diverse from all over--important to note that all but 1-2 of their residents were rotators, so they are VERY rotator heavy. I interviewed at the end of my rotation, and they were 4 interviews for 15 minutes each. Very laid back, everyone enjoys their time there. The big drawbacks for this program to me were the location (I’m not a huge fan of Atlanta), and the need to drive a LOT to get from place to place as everything is really spread out in the city. They’re a great name, land good fellowships, and the residents and faculty are good to work with, but the location/lack of organized research/my gut caused me to rank them 2nd tier.
Medical College of Georgia: this is definitely a community program that draws strongly from their own medical school. I didn’t get the sense that they favor rotators, but I’m sure it helps here since they take so many from MCG. The overall feel I got was that this is a tight-knit group of guys who work hard. One major drawback for me was the fact that they only have 1 trauma attending. The residents I talked to didn’t think this was a bad thing, but I personally would like to see multiple approaches and methodologies of fixing the same problem, especially in trauma. They’re definitely not strong in research, although they do have a research coordinator and had a list of recently published things, so it does get done. Overall the residents and attendings are great, and their PD was especially nice to interview with (Vanderbilt trained, dual boarded in tumor and joints). This just wasn’t academic enough for what I was looking for, and I wasn’t in love with the town of Augusta.
UMMC: another very southern community program that takes a lot of local guys. The main thing with this program is that it has the reputation of turning out incredibly skilled surgeons. Their PD is an awesome guy who is bought into resident education, and really wants people to succeed. Their call is extremely front loaded, with years 3-5 becoming much easier from a call perspective. With their PD being so invested in education, they have an excellent didactic curriculum from what I could tell. The things that made this a tier 2 program for me, despite the solid faculty, was the lack of organized research opportunities and the location (I didn’t really get to explore Jackson that much, but it’s not the ideal spot for me for the things I enjoy doing in my limited free time!)
West Virginia University: another community program with a research flavor, that felt similar to Greenville. They have an amazing group of residents that I really enjoyed getting to know at the social. They get good fellowships, and many seem to come back to WVU as attendings (I interviewed with several). They have a night float call system. They do have a research resident each year, and have dedicated PhDs to research, but I wasn’t super impressed with their research facilities. They overall seem to have a great balance of an academic and community program feel. The two things that pushed them to tier 2 for me was location (Morgantown just isn’t my cup of tea) and that the interview day kind of threw me off. It was 5 minute interviews with like 12 people, and they all asked the same questions. I had a couple of odd questions thrown in too that wouldn’t have added anything to my application, or their knowledge of me as an applicant.
Tier 3: Not going to say a ton about each of these, but they just didn’t give me the same feeling as the other places I rotated/interviewed, and were each lacking in one or more areas that I heavily desired to have in a program.
George Washington University: in DC, more of an academic feel. Program is well respected from a “name” perspective. They do all rotations in house. Their lack of research personnel support and their rotation structure were the biggest downsides for me. They do team based rotations, where one is essentially trauma, and the other is a catch-all, where you don’t do the typical 10week/3 month rotations, but each day is different. You could have a foot/ankle case one day, and a humerus the next. It just doesn’t lend itself, in my opinion, to being able to master any one area well and would make it hard to get through a textbook/study resource in any set amount of time for studying purposes. Also don’t do pes until 4th year. Call is q4 during 2nd year, no night float. PD/Chairman said they will eventually move to a specialty based rotation system, but it won’t be a drastic/sudden transition.
Palmetto Health/USC: very small program (2/year) in Columbia, SC. Very much a community program that is good at turning out generalists. Residents have to work a little harder to cover call because there are so few of them. Have only 1 spine guy (new) and one peds guy (I believe). They just don’t have the big name fellowship connections that other places have, and is a smaller program at a smaller hospital than what I was looking for. I got the impression that it is on the upswing, though
St. Louis University: I just didn’t have an awesome feel on this interview in general, and the city and resident culture/collective personality isn’t what I’m looking for.
Western Michigan/Homer Stryker: good community program (3/year) in a small city (Kalamazoo, MI). Seem to have a good operative experience. Call is odd in that all calls have to go through an attending first--for me this was a big minus because I want to learn how to field calls and weed out what needs to be weeded out. Don’t have a lot of fellowship connections--residents essentially said that you need to do an optional “away rotation” in order to get good contacts for fellowship programs--this was a big minus for me. They also don’t do a tumor rotation at all, they have a 1 day seminar to cover board relevant tumor topics. These things combined made this a Tier 3 program for me.
NOT RANKED: none
Matched at: #1.
Advice for future applicants: Work hard! And don’t sell yourself short, but be realistic. Away rotations will be your friend if you go and work hard, build relationships, and treat people well. I would get involved in research early on at your med school/hospital, and make connections with ortho people early on. Use those connections to get away rotations, interviews, etc. In my case, building relationships with residents and attendings did a lot for me. Having solid scores alone won’t do it (usually), and neither will just being a nice person (unfortunately). Having a combination of good academic performance, extra-curriculars (something interesting to talk about in interviews!), and having a personality that people can work with for 5 years goes a long way. As far as away rotations are concerned, don’t do them at 3-4 places that are all alike. Even if they’re in the same region (as mine were), you can choose several different types of programs so that you can really figure out what you like and don’t like in a program.
Ultimately, this is about finding which program is the best fit for you personally and your future career interests. Yes, program rankings and OITE scores and number of publications turned out per year are all important, but they’re not gospel. Work hard, do well on boards, do away rotations at places that interest you, and go for it. Good luck!
Hopefully this is helpful to someone! If anyone has questions about any of these programs specifically, feel free to DM me on here.