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Hey guys, I am considering UT Southwestern as one of my top program choices. I am currently a 3rd year medical student in Louisiana. I was looking for more opinions/information on the program. Also, anything I could do to improve my chance to match here would be greatly appreciated. I plan to do an away rotation here during my 4th year.

Thanks!
13 years ago
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I know that the UTSW program looks very heavily at board scores and GPAs. Some rotators will not even get an interview due to numbers. I would highly recommend maximizing your board scores if this is a program that you are very interested in. How did step 1 go and how many honors have you gotten so far?
13 years ago
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265 on step 1
was ranked 6/110 at the end of 2nd year, all A's in preclinical years
currently a AOA nomination but it will not be awarded till later this year

1 A and rest B's in clinic rotations (completed peds, OBGN, psych currently)
Its almost impossible to make A's in our clinical rotations at our school... I really hope it is not weighed that heavily
13 years ago
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With that step 1, I don't think you'll have any problem getting a rotation and an interview. They look mostly at Surgery and Medicine clinical grades so I would do your best (as if u aren't already...) to try to honors those rotations. I don't think a B here and there will kill your chances with boards like that.
13 years ago
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I start internal in 1 week, and surgery is my last rotation so I can try my best to honor those
13 years ago
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Hopefully this answers your questions:

I am currently a senior resident at a very similar program to UT Southwestern and am from the Dallas area. I rotated at UT Southwestern as a med student and have strong family ties to the program. The residency is a fantastic program. The residents are close knit, extremely intelligent, and hard working. Yes, the residency looks at Step 1, clinical rotations, letter of recommendations, and research (but all schools look at these criteria). If you are strongly considering UT Southwestern for residency you need to make sure you get an application in to rotate there. When you rotate there, you have the opportunity to show the faculty and residents that you are hard working, intelligent, and easy to get along with. With that said, you may also be able to do the exact opposite (so make sure you read for cases, come prepared, and be nice yet reserved to the ancillary staff and residents). The current residents have a strong say in who gets selected. They will interview non-rotators, but like most programs a known commodity is worth a lot more. In case there were doubts about the program, the recent chairman issues have been resolved (Dr. Adam Starr is interim chair and does a phenomenal job) and they are hiring new staff again. I do not think it will be long before the program is back as the powerhouse program in Texas. Feel free to message me if you have further questions.
13 years ago
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Just saw this post and felt that I could offer some insight. I rotated at UT Southwestern along with an east coast program and a west coast program.

When choosing my aways I was looking for 3 main things: operative experience, location, and reputable name.

The operative experience begins day 1 on any of the ortho services. The 2nd year residents on service were doing every surgical case skin to skin while being coached by an attending at their side. The attendings seemed focused on resident education/experience and were actively teaching why things were done a certain way. Everyone from junior to senior residents seemed confident, comfortable and proficient in the operating room. This was important to me because unlike research and didactic learning, no amount of self initiative and pro-activeness can provide you with the ability to operate well if the volume is not there or if there is some unwillingness or hesitation from attendings to hand you the knife in the OR.

The second biggest strength of this program was the collegiality amongst residents and attendings that can be found in few if any places. Every Monday night about half of the residents will get together for dinner or they will go to Sunday brunch with some of the attendings. They will also meet for journal club at one of the well known attendings houses. Another attending often sets up happy hour for everyone to get together several times a month and he even buys box seats to the mavericks game and invites all the residents. The chairman and program director are both well known and respected and seem easily approachable/available for the residents.

The ortho residents have their own intramural sports teams and they often hang out together with everyones friends and families joining as well. From my perspective they do have a life outside of work, which in Dallas can be eventful. The residents do have time to go out, travel, spend time with their families, go on ski/hunting/fishing trips and they also have a 3 month rotation in England as Chiefs.

The weaknesses of this program include its research and the rebuilding it is undergoing with its faculty as there was a change in chairman a few years ago. If you plan on publishing tons of papers you will have to be very self motivated because it doesn't have multiple PhD's, grant writers, and statisticians that are dedicated to streamlining research as some big research programs do. It does however have many well published attendings that will take on projects with residents and help through its completion. Also, it is a busy level one trauma center so you will have to work hard especially in the second year. Second year is the busiest of all years and you will have long days with many patients to see, but every ortho consult that goes through parkland hospital is seen by a second yr resident and by the time you finish your 2nd year there you will have seen more consults and scrubbed more cases than most programs in the country.

If you want to match there it is definitely beneficial to do an away rotation there and work your ass off as you should on any ortho away rotation. Before choosing any of your away rotations you have to ask yourself what you are looking for in a program. Also take everything you read or hear from anyone with a grain of salt because one persons experience can be completely different from another.

Hope this helps. If you have any more questions PM me.
13 years ago
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As a current resident at this program I can say that nothing is further from the truth with regards to vacation scheduling. A common rumor spread about our program is that we don't take vacation.

In fact I would say that our program is more flexible on vacation scheduling than most others I know of. We also make sure that every resident has 7 days off around the end of a december with a dedicated holiday schedule, at every PGY 2-5.

I have taken all my vacations...and so has everyone that I know of.

All this to say though...vacation scheduling shouldn't play any part into your decision for a residency.

Please feel free to message me with any questions. As noted above, we are a VERY close knit group and have a ton of fun while getting some of the best training in the country.
13 years ago
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So after reading this post I felt like there was some information posted that I didn't necessarily agree with and I just wanted to add my experience to the list. So I'm currently a 4th year medical student who rotated at UTSW earlier this year. First off, yes, like any good program should, UTSW looks at step 1, grades, research, letters, etc... But more importantly, they want to know that you're a hard worker and that you're easy to get along with. You can have the greatest grades and step 1 from the greatest medical school in the world and if you're a dork, no one will want to spend the next 5 years with you. As stated earlier, I believe that residents here do have a strong input on the final rank list and it's definitely something they all take pride in. They are looking to recruit strong, hardworking applicants that they can get along with because the incoming class will be their junior residents and they want juniors that will work hard and make their senior years much easier.

With that said, I think that if you are considering UTSW as your top choice, I think it's important for you to do an away rotation there. As stated earlier, a known commodity is better than a shot in the dark and when you rotate, the program and, perhaps most importantly, the residents get the chance to know you and vice versa. Unfortunately, away rotations can act as a double-edged sword, and, if you don't get along well with the residents or don't work hard, it can absolutely hurt your chances.

But with that said, the residents at UTSW are an incredibly tight knit group of guys and girls and throughout my interviews and rotations, I never met a group that I thought were even close to these guys. Yes, they all work hard, however, they are a fun group and they hang out together frequently outside of work. Multiple times a week the residents get together for a happy hour, or a dinner, or a brunch, and often, faculty will join.

Additionally, a previous poster mentioned that they had heard that UTSW residents don't take any vacation, which I think is untrue. When I was rotating, there were multiple residents who were on vacation. I think what the previous poster may be referring to is that the PGY2 year is rough, but to be honest, the PGY 2 year is incredible. Yes, you work hard and yes, it can be exhausting, but the 2's at UTSW operate more than any other group of 2's I met on the trail by far. They are doing nearly every case skin to skin (with supervision of course). By the time the residents hit their chief year, they do nothing but operate and they're incredible surgeons.

The outstanding operative experience is a large reason they get the top fellowships every year (this year Carolinas, Harvard, Columbia, San Diego, Miami, etc...). In addition, the UTSW alumni association, which they talked about during the interview, is an outstanding network of physicians that can help make calls for residents and get them into just about any fellowship in any specialty. In addition, they assist with job hunting for residents when they finish fellowship.

Furthermore, I think some people assume UTSW is just a trauma heavy program that ignores other specialties, but I think that's completely false. They have an outstanding joints experience, an outstanding sports experience and a top-notch peds experience. In fact, with the amount of time spent at Texas Children's and Texas Scottish Rite, the residents leave with the experience of a mini peds fellowship. I think, for awhile, hand had been viewed as a weakness, but recently they've signed two new faculty that produce tons of RVUs and have actually made hand and shoulder/elbow a strong rotation. I think the big weakness amongst subspecialties is foot and ankle, however, I know they're currently looking to hire on a surgeon to fill the void and, with the way things are going, I believe they will relatively soon.

So I mentioned the subspecialties were fantastic, and I think a large reason why this is true is because of the outstanding faculty. Every faculty member here sincerely cares about resident education. They teach both techniques and concepts which I think is huge. Some programs don't have the volume to teach techniques while others don't have the faculty to teach concepts. I think UTSW is great because they have both. All the faculty want the residents to became the best surgeons they can and are willing to help the residents out with anything they can. I think it would be difficult to find a more intelligent, genuine group of teaching faculty anywhere. Additionally, the interim chair, Dr. Starr, and the program director, Dr. Gill, have done a fantastic job bringing in new faculty and the program certainly seems to be returning to the powerhouse it was in the past.

I think the biggest weakness of the program might be the research department. As stated earlier, there is no machine to help you crank out paper after paper, however, I have been told, the opportunities are there if you want them. There are several very well published faculty that would be happy to have residents jump on projects with, however, they will not be spoon fed to you and you will need to seek them out.

Completely unrelated, Dallas is an incredible city with so much to do. There are sporting events, bars, restaurants, parks, museums, bike trails, etc... Everything you could possibly want in a city. Yes, the traffic can be bad, however, you don't have to travel far for rotations and, when you work resident hours, traffic isn't bad at all. Housing is very affordable with many residents owning homes relatively close Parkland. I really can't think of a city where you get more bang for your buck AND, no state income tax.

So if I haven't made it abundantly clear, I loved my rotation at UTSW and would love to wind up there for residency. I feel there is not a better group of faculty and residents in the country and you won't find a better operative experience. Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
13 years ago
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Thanks for all the great information! You guys rock
13 years ago
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Ok, sorry for spreading misinformation, thanks for clearing up the vacation issue.

Regarding whether vacation scheduling should be part of your selection process, I agree that it should not be the primary focus. However, for me when looking for the best "fit" it was important to find a program that recognizes and respects that residents have lives outside of ortho (a part of of which is actually being able to use your allotted vacation time).
13 years ago
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I understand, but I caution you and all people on this forum in that regard.

Unless you are a resident at a program, you honestly dont know how a program works, I sure didn't until I became a resident.

Lots of people post lots of information on here...and I would imagine a large chunk of it to be false...

Again, feel free to PM me about our program.
13 years ago
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April 1st I'm gonna be putting my application in for the away

Congrats all the people who matched here
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