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  Monday, 15 March 2010
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Congrats to those who matched this year. To those who didn't, I definitely feel for you. I was in the same spot last year and it was the worst feeling of my life. Fortunately, I matched this year after doing a year of research. I'll be back later to share more about my story and to answer questions for those that have them, but I just wanted to get this thread started up.

I know it feels like the end of the world right now, but it isn't. Remember how much you want to be an orthopaedic surgeon and pledge to keep fighting until you reach that goal. It's definitely still possible. Right now you just have to believe in yourself and surround yourself with people who care about you. The pain will pass.

Feel free to PM me with any questions.
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I'm curious if CnH and Iliz matched
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16 years ago
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$100 says they both matched.
16 years ago
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wow.. I have to say, I'm touched to hear from you guys being concerned for my wellfare.

I can say with a smile, ear to ear, I matched.

So happy. Rock on.

Can't wait to hear where everyone winds up.

I think I'm going to streak around the city saying 'check out my bones'! haha.

Do I get a cut of the 100$?
16 years ago
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Congratulations man. You've worked your ass off for this.
16 years ago
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Congratulations to the matched applicants out there!

If you are like I was last year, you might be reading this thread right now for support and advice. I didn't match into orthopaedics last year despite having 10 interviews and I know what you are going through right now. Just as spiff21 said, it may feel like the end of the world right now; but there is still a light at the end of the tunnel. Todays misery will eventually end. What you do between now and tomorrow morning is extremely important.

You essentially have 3 options right now (maybe 4)
-scramble into a preliminary general surgery year
-do a research fellowship
-delay graduation for 1 year
-(read on a thread under Interviews/Travel that there are 3 unmatched spots????) don't know how they would know that though as the list of unmatched spots is released by NRMP tomorrow at 9am Central

I decided to scramble into a gen surg prelim spot and was looking for certain things about the programs I called on Tuesday. I cant' really comment on a research year or delaying graduation.
-should try to get a spot with program that has an ortho residency at that institution; I ended up going to a program that had a top ranked ortho residency (ie: well known ortho surgeons with contacts that can write letters)
-I decided I wanted to go to a program with a reputation for tough work/hrs. I really wanted to put myself to the test and live up to the challenge (got stellar letters after a tough first few months on Transplant surgery)
-I wanted to get out of my region. I spent every year of my life in Texas and didn't really feel the love from many Southern programs last year. (came to program in Midwest and ended up with tons of Midwest interviews...which I wasn't considered for last year?????? Another thing I think this showed is that I was willing to move across the country for ortho
-if at all possible try to go to a program that would allow you to set up your prelim rtns to be congruent with a PGY1 ortho position. They are as follows (from NRMP):

A -6 months of any of the following: trauma, plastics, ICU, Vascular
B -3 months of any of the following: ER, MICU/CCU, internal medicine, neurology, neurosurgery, pediatric surgery, pediatrics, rheumatology, anesthesiology, MSK radiology, PM&R.
C -no more than 3 months of orthopaedics

-spend tonight preparing for tomorrow if you choose to scramble. you should go to your home ortho program and ask for your ERAS app. make copies of this for you and your freinds who will help you scramble so that you can have it on hand to fax immediately. Be sure to send the applications through ERAS as well as many programs will only be looking at this (I didn't know that last year). Have at least 2 people with you who can make phone calls to the unfilled prelim programs along with you...take the first good spot you get offered.

After the scramble I ended up doing more research with my home institution and volunteered time with the trauma team to show my interest and refusal to accept failure. You could even try contacting ortho programs to try to do a 1-2 week externship now (but don't do this if you cant' keep a smile on your face and maintain a strong work ethic)

It also might be a good idea to email the chairman/director at the programs you interviewed with and ask if/(and what) deficiencies your application may have had and if there is anything that you could do in the meantime to try and correct them for next year.

When it comes to letters for next year....DO NOT USE YOUR OLD LETTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The programs want to know what you have done since not matching. They don't want the same application from last year. I know there is barely anything that one can do to from now to the next application season, but if you really want ortho....you will find anyway to improve your application.

Set your home page to orthogate.org's advanced residency position blog, because you should always be on the lookout for 2nd year spots.

Apply to as many programs as you can afford next year. Keep a tab of what programs are interviewing on what days...there are tons of people that have multiple interviews on the same day and interview slots open up. E-mail the coordinator or director of programs that haven't offered you an interview and have interviews coming up (especially if that particular day has many programs interviewing that day...ie January 17 this year!). Orthogate is a great place to keep track of this.

It's going to be a tough couple of weeks for you all, but as I said earlier, it will eventually fade. You need to stay focused and keep your ultimate goal of becoming an orthopaedic surgeon in mind. Try to keep your loved ones close to you right now...they can be the brightest light in a what seems to be a dark tunnel right now.

After doing all of the above I had pretty successful interview season this year. I went on 11 interviews in many different regions of the country and re-interviewed with 3 programs that interviewed me last year. I ended up getting a PGY2 spot with an amazing program and pulled out of the match.

Keep your head up. You are deserving of a spot, it just so happens that there are tons of other deserving applicants as well. Keep your work ethic and remember, if you keep working at it, you will eventually get where you want to be.

If you want any other advice, PM me.
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From the interview forum...
Hey all,
If you didn't match.. Believe me, I know, it sucks.. but hold your head up high. Trust me, it will be okay.

It really has nothing to do with your character or your credentials (well, for the most part, unless you're a total jerk). It has to do with the luck of the draw. Just think about the interviews you got this year.. it seemed random, didn't it? Well, the same thing goes for getting a match.. it has a lot of randomness for you.

I was a reapplicant that 'fell through the cracks'..I had high board scores, all honors, research, etc. etc. Things just don't work out. You have to roll with the punches..

But guess what, this year I matched. I did a research year.. and that worked for me.

Your choices are to scramble into the 3 ortho spots this year, go for a research year, do a year of gen surg, or scramble into another specialty.

The choice is up to you. For me, I only wanted to do ortho. Period. Each choice has it's advantages, but I'll go through the top two for you.

1. Research Year -
POSITIVE: If you want to better your CV you can do this, plus gain contacts in the industry. This will help.
You don't have to suffer through a year of gen surgery (which is tough to keep your head up high with that much stress.)
You have mroe time to travel to do interviews, second looks, etc.
NEGATIVE:
You don't continue to do clinical things.
Depending on your medical school, you might not be able to do an away rotation in your year out. You'll have to check with your school. My school wanted me to pay for a whole year of tuition, so I didn't rotate anywhere.
People might think you're loosing your clinical edge. You may think that as well. for me, I know that I pick up things quickly, so it's not a problem.

2. Surgery Year - Best bet is try to do a year at a place that has an ortho program 1, and 2. a place where the two departments talk.. which is difficult to figure out.
Positive:
You get to stay in the clinical. You can proove yourself clinically to the gen surg department.
If you manage to rotate through the ACGME required services, you can try for a PGY-2 spot in the following year.
You get paid to work
You might be able to do ortho rotations at that program
Negative:
It's stressful, and tough to do research to boost your CV
It's difficult to get interviews scheduled with your intern year.
If your gen surg department doesn't have a relationship with an ortho program, it won't help as much.

Whatever you decide.. you have to get a champion. Someone who likes you and is willing to goto bat for you. Without that, regardless if you're a reapplicant or a regular applicant.. it's definitely a steeper uphill battle.

Good luck! And if you need anyone to talk to for advice, let me know, I'm willing to return the favor that someone did for me last year.. it definitely made me feel better, which is truthfully what you need right now!
16 years ago
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Wow, I am also touched! But that is why I love ortho, it's like one big team!

And yes, I matched!

I know how some of you feel today. It's like a punch in the gut that just won't go away. I plan to post about my strategy for this past year. And of course if you have any specific questions or comments, feel free to PM me.

And of course, congrats to the rest of you all to match, can't wait to find out where!
16 years ago
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Hell yeah cNh.. ROCK ON..

See you at future academy meetings!... or at the same program
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16 years ago
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Thanks man! I thought I would feel less anxious if I matched, but now I feel even more anxiety for Thursday to come!
16 years ago
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Congrats CnH and Iliz!! I'm pumped for you guys! You guys were great for information and inspiration. Thanks for everything!
16 years ago
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Wow, I am also touched! But that is why I love ortho, it's like one big team!



I can't emphasize this enough how true I believe that to be. My girlfriend used to yell at me for sharing information to other applicants, that I should be more competitive.. but that's rediculous.. share the wealth, and let the best orthopod get the spot http://www.orthogate.org/media/kunena/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Great to have new members of the 'ortho family/team' http://www.orthogate.org/media/kunena/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
16 years ago
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Iliz and CnH: Excellent work. Welcome and Congratulations! I hope you both ended up at your top choices.
16 years ago
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Thanks capneedle and Merlin!
16 years ago
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thanks cappy and merly
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I should probably resent that...
16 years ago
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lol... sorry, I don't know what I was thinking.. chaulk it up to the excitement of matching??


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