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  Thursday, 15 March 2007
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I guess ill start this one off too with stats and stuff like the last years. It helped me alot and hopefully this will help those that follow.

My stats:

Go to a UC medical school in southern Cali Baby.
Pre Clinicical Honors 8/14
CLinical Honors: 6/6 with 2 letters of commendation in OB and GSurg.
Junior AOA
Usmle Step 1: 264/99
Usmle Step 2: 271/99 ( took in late dec due to req from school. Not available but sent to my top 5 progs in january)
Research: 1 month of biomechanics, I case report submitted to JSES, 1 book chapter, some pubs in an ER book)

Outside activities: just a bunch of fluff.

Applied to 45 got 30 interviews went on 12 and ranked all 12.

ROL:

1: USC: Loved the program, rotated, wanted to stay in Cali, great training, guys there are awesome, and solid name in Ortho.

2. UCLA: Was in LA. They emphasize dthat they DID operate, but when you probed they do but not as much as other programs. Still great to get fellowships if thats your game. plus its in LA and has a great name.

3. Stanford: rotated there. ranked it for the name and cushyiness. In the end it weas not one of my favorite programs, but it was in Cali i would have sucked it up. They operate a good deal too. More than other big academic names ...at least I felt.

4. Pitt: This place is sick. no need to say more. I would have put them higher but I have family ties in so cal.

5. Cleveland clinic: dopest prgram that I saw. operate alot, residents cool as shit, name. It has it all. Excepet its in cleveland....big trade off.

6. Harvard: Hmmph.
7. UCSD.
8. PItt 6 year
9. CCF 6 year
10. U of chicago
11. U of rochester
12. Iowa.

I also interviewed at HSS but got the u wont match letter.

Matched at #1: USC Goooo Trojans!! SUper stoked. Hope everyones match went well.
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Solid Med School
Pre-clinical: all A's
Step 1: mid 240's
Step 2: mid 250's (available for interviews)
Clinical: pass, high pass on core rotations; honors on 3 orthos
+ ortho, non-ortho research
++ extracurricular
Applied ~60
Interviews ~25
Attended ~18
Good interviews, IMHO
Ranked All

Barely Matched

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19 years ago
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School: top med school
Preclinical: very, very few honors
Clinical: mostly honors
AOA: not even close
Aways: 2 aways – worked my butt off, got awesome evals (not rec letters); both places still didn’t even know that I rotated in their programs during the interview. I had to remind them.
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Step I: 240+
Step II: took it few days ago, I just want to pass with little bit of dignity.
Research: 5+ publications (all ortho).
Extracurriculars: a lot (bordering on hypomanic)

Applied: 50+ programs / ~45 interviews offered / 19 interviews attended / ~7-8 post-interview chairman phonecalls or equivalent.

Matched at #1.

Categorized, but not in particular order (all awesome programs, and mainly based on location and vibe)
2-5: Columbia, UPenn, HSS, Hopkins,
6-10: UCSF, UCLA, Brown, Wash U, U of Wash
10-15: NYU-HJD, UPitt, UMich, Case Western, Dartmouth

1. Harvard: This program is the Big Bang about to explode (I may be little exaggerating here). You rotate through 4 premiere hospitals (MGH, BWH, CHOB, BI) and I figure if I can take care of patients in these hospitals, I can take care of patients just about anywhere. 100+ attendings (actually this might not be true, but pretty close) who are all worldclass and a lot of them surprisingly down to earth. Zero weakness in any subspecialty. A combination of old school and young attendings who seem to understand what its like to be a resident. I also loved the residents... like really really loved them. They were all like Jedi Knights with the force that rivals Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi combined! Trust me, I felt the force.
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Obviously an academic powerhouse and I thought that the residents were given plenty of opportunities to thrive here and grow as an awesome surgeon.

Some nice perks: 1) $50,000 starting salary. While one should NEVER make decision based on money, it’s a nice gesture by the institution. I didn’t find this out until I got my contract. 2) Boston is an awesome city with plenty of chicks who dig star wars and Jon Favreau movies. 3) Journal club meeting with the editor of JBJS. 4) Free pitching lessons with Dice-K (just kidding, although a realistic possibility since Harvard covers Red Sox).
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My thoughts on selected programs, but I would have been happy with all the places I interviewed at. Not in particular order.

Columbia: Awesome, awesome program! I just loved it during my interview here. Great balance of the happy triad (research, operative experience, social life). I am nominating Dr. Levine for the coolest PD of the year award.
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He’s rocks like Gandalf who’s about to whop Balrog’s ass! The rotations were carefully designed to maximally benefit the residents, and the PD and Chairman seem very responsive to any concerns. Chiefs have impressive fellowship match across the nation, and Columbia is a huge name wherever you go and opens a lot of doors.

UPenn: UPenn is off the hook! with happiest and coolest residents around. The program has great operative experience and research. The relationship between the residents and attendings were extremely collegial with much less hierarchical than any other program I interviewed at. Philly is an awesome city and great for single life. I ran into quite a few hot, off the hook nurses during tour, and really fell in love with the program. The hospitals are located within the main UPenn campus which was a big plus for me. This program also fulfills the happy triad. A lot of fellow Jedi Knights here too, with skills like that of Legolas bringing down a mammoth with his triple arrow shot.
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HSS: It’s obvsiously a huge name in orthopaedic circle (although I didn’t know about HSS until my fourth year… kind of embarrassing for me actually). They have awesome group of residents. Great private hospital feel with academic affiliation and a full research facility. Housing is a huge plus. This place runs like a factory.

Hopkins: I loved this place. Residents were very, very cool and very funny. I spent the whole interview laughing my butt off. The attendings were also very cool and had a lot of pride working at an institution like Hopkins. Surprisingly for an academic place, there seems to be less pressure about publication and more emphasis on operating; so you get the benefit of the both worlds.

UCSF: This place is one of the few academic powerhouses with operative experience that tops the community programs. You operate early and you do majority of them as a primary surgeon. The new chairman (Dr. Vail) is a supernova about to explode. He was just so awesome to me and everybody else that I actually got little teary. I was so used to getting crapped on, and so I just didn’t know what to do with myself when I met this guy. San Francisco is an awesome city with plenty of hot girls; had difficulty driving around because I was busy staring.
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Case Western: I think this place is equivalent to Wash U (also a kick ass program), and one of the best in the Midwest. Dr. Marcus is the death star about take over a planet. He’s young, energetic, and loves the program as much as he loves his residents. Case Western also has very carefully designed system for the residents with excellent exposure to both research and OR. Residents were very polished and very cool. If you want to stay around Cleveland or around this region, this is the place to be.
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Top 30 state med school

Preclinical: Honors or Near Honors in only 3 classes, Passed all the rest

Clinical: Near Honors: Surgery, Psych. Honors: Ortho. Passed all the rest

AOA: Not even close

Class Rank: nothing official, but definately middle of the road

Step I: 232

Step II: 224, taken in Sept., but didn't release score until after match

Aways: home program, wright st. (dayton, oh)

Couples match with Peds (above average applicant)

Applied to 59, invites 10, went to 10

ROL (in no particular order): Ohio state (5 and 6 year), Wright state (5 and 6 year), Cincinnati, Mt. Carmel, UT- San Antonio, New Mexico, Iowa, UIC

Did not rank 2 programs because my wife absolutely hated the program she interviewed at in that city.

Matched at my #1 Ohio State (5yr). Am absolutely stoked. I would have been very happy at any of the programs that I ranked, but my wife was in love with her program here. I really liked the residents here and loved how available they were during the interview day to answer questions. Rotate at the University hospital plus almost whole thrid year is spent at a very nice private hospital. Residents seemed to get plenty of operative experience and a very balanced exposure to all subspecialties. No holes in the program. The residents were great people that I can't wait to spend the next 5 years with.

Thoughts on other programs:

Wright st: Really liked this program when I rotated there. Great staff and residents. Not as good a program for my wife and didn't like 4 month long blocks for rotations, esp. in areas that you only get to see one time.

Cincinnati: Good people. Dr. Stern seems like a great guy. Residents didn't seem to hang out quite as much as other places. However, I think that they get very, very good training.

Mt. Carmel: Very friendly program. Really liked the people esp. PD. Lots of perks to working in a community program, interns went to AO fracture conf. in Switzerland! Decided I wanted a larger program in an academic setting.

UT- San Antonio: Dr. Carlisle is incredible as the PD here. Also like the residents here and they seem very well trained. Very friendly environment to train in. Lots of cool young staff as well as incredible names like Dr. Rockwood. Was a little leary of the trauma experience (q3 in house call as a pgy5.)

New Mexico: Loved this program. Lots of great residents. Great outdoor locations. Good operative experience. Life gets better throughout residency.

Iowa: Powerhouse program. Very academic feel. Amazing attendings. Not a great location for my wife and myself, although Iowa City is a great town.

UIC: Didn't get a great feel for the program since I couldn't make the night before event. Residents seemed happy and well-trained. Not as big a name as others in Chicago, but I think top notch training.
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