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  Tuesday, 08 March 2005
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So I choked on step I (sub-national mean) and I am planning on taking step II early and (hopefully) doing well.

My question is this: Am I better off waiting until I get my step II score before submitting my applications meaning that I should take step II in June or July or is okay if I take a month off at the beginning of 4th year, take step II in mid-late August, submit my applications as early as possible with my step II score pending? Or does taking step II later set my application on a direct path to the trash can based on my low step I? Do programs wait to review your application if your step II is pending?

Any opinion/advice would be helpful.

And yes, I realize what a complete tool this post make me sound like and I realize that this post probably only applies to about 10% of people on this board. Congratulation to all of you who rocked step I and do not have to deal with this s*** - I hate you with every fiber of my being.
21 years ago
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First of all, forget about it, you can't change it, and focus on what's ahead.

I was in the same boat after step 1, took step 2 in July of my 4th year and focused on my clinical rotations and away electives. I don't know what others will have to say, but I would recommend taking step 2 ASAP in your schedule and having it in your application. I can't imagine many programs would wait for pending step 2 scores from an applicant who "choked" on step 1. They have plenty of applicants that didn't and they don't need to wait for you. A strong step 2 staring at them may help them overlook your step 1.

There are some programs that don't look at step 2 even if you have it in your application, so you aren't going to be interviewing at those unless you rotate with them and blow them away. I ran into this exact situation at one of my aways and was told flat out that I would not have been offered an interview if I hadn't rotated because my step 1 fell below their cutoff. My step 2 was above their cutoff, but I was told they don't have the time to deal with that and just make their cuts on step 1. Don't know if I actually made it into a position to match, but I did get an interview at a top notch program without the typical scores.

How far below the national mean you are will obviously affect your application, but taking and rocking step 2 can only help. You still want to submit your application as soon as possible and have your scores in as soon as possible.

Hope this helped and good luck. If you want ortho, it can still be done.
21 years ago
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Take step II early, but also submit your eras early. That way you can release your score later. Also, with a low step I, you will want to do lots of audition electives. This way you will get more interviews as many programs have cut-offs for non-rotators that are "waived" for those who rotate. ANd, crush step II.
18 years ago
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For what it's worth, a PGY-5 told me that he weighs Step I and II equally when he's looking at apps. I also had an attending tell me that he doesn't care as much about Step I as he does clerkship evals. I think it just varies from program to program.
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