Top Orthopaedic Residency Programs

Actually i am going to chime back in again now that jeff was mentioned. They actually produce more quality manuscripts in top ortho journals than upenn.



Hopefully someone wont use this as an opportunity to "humbly" take a juvenile swipe at my rank list.

I have recently heard that Gerry Williams the head of the shoulder and elbow division as well as Dr. Getz and possibly Dr. Ramsey is leaving PENN. As Shoulder may be the strongest subspeciality at PENN it would be worrisome to me that there is a mass exodus occurring. PENN has always had financial difficulties and with some of the best faculty leaving it is concerning.

Dont know how this forum went from best ortho programs to the "Penn forum".

Everyone has the right to think what they want to about programs. Clearly not everyone is going to feel the same way about a program. If anyone thinks hard enough, they will come up with a lot of negatives about any program.

Be very weary of people who post random negative comments about a program: 9/10 times there is a history preceeding the comment. I dont buy that a program that just received a 5 year accreditation, which is a not a small deal, is under major financial difficulty.

I am not going to presume that I know all and say its the absolute best or top whatever for everyone. Its just one that, after interviewing at a lot of the programs mentioned, seemed to stand out to me. Just me. It cleary is not perfect...no program is.

We should let this topic end.....its a trivial one....in a year or so, no one will care...we will be where we match (hopefully) and make the most out of it.

I agree with the previous post. this post is turning into a Penn specific forum. the fact that the program is accredited should mean something and i doubt that any of us know more than the people who accredit the programs and continuously review them. Every program is going to have turnover. So, the forum should go back to serving the initial question that was asked. Even then, arguments for or againt a program should be limited and perhaps posted on another blog. Otherwise, you guys knock yourselves out talking about Penn! This is just an opinion. I did not start this post but whoever id i think did not want it to be exclusively about Penn.

This thread is laughable...As a person close to the Penn Ortho community, I just want to clear up any rumors for those that may have ranked it #1 on their list and hope to end up there.

Yes, Dr. Gerald Williams left the department some time ago-He is now at Jeff...apparently it was due to financial reasons that were largely a University/Hospital issue and not specific to anything in the Ortho Dept itself. This does stand to hurt the residents that are applying to Sports fellowships because he was the individual that was relied upon to make the phone call of support. Clinically, you will not feel any effects, as your experience with Dr. Williams was largely limited to watching the fellow, watch him operate.

Yes, I have heard Dr. Matt Ramsey may be leaving as well. Can't imagine why this would happen now given the fact that he has now been appointed chief of the shoulder and elbow service with Williams leaving. Time will tell.

Lastly, Penn is not in a financial crisis and hasn't been for quite some time now. As a matter of fact, the residents all received "bonuses" last year because the hospital did so well financially.

The lesson I have learned throughout this whole process is that you should never decide to go to a particular program because of the national players that may be on staff there. Academic Orthopaedics and academic medicine in general is not an entity that lends itself well to stability-there will always be flux at any academic program and this is completely out of your control. Pick a residency based upon those things that are fixed factors (geography, lifestyle, fellow residents etc). You can't go wrong with this strategy!

With all due respect, I disagree with orthogater1. I would humbly suggest checking out his previous post on orthogater1's rank list to see what he considers the top program in the nation. Maybe other than UVA, I've never even heard of most of them. Seems like another one of those bitter-revenge post to me.

So far, I've defended two programs]

Wow, talk about a wonderful attitude, I hope that someone that operates on me has that attitude....so he ranked 13 programs out of what, 160 some total ortho program which is just under 10%....so are you planning on ignoring 10% of the ortho community or your future colleagues....grow up dude, sorry you think you sh!t doesn't stink, but it does...

Sorry we can't all be white collar like you, I'll just laugh when you meet someone who isn't and he takes your head off for that attitude.

And unlike Ricky Bobby, your not entitled to say what you want just cuz you say with all due respect.

"i'm the best there is, plain and simple. i wake up every morning and piss excellence."