UMDNJ-Newark

Grow up maxortho7. I not sure if you can comprehend what I said yesterday? If not, may be I can teach you some proper English next week at UMDNJ. As the other guys and of course ladies (MK) can attest for I have been known to be quite good at it. With all due respect Dr. Hipscope, we are the only ones who know all the facts and I do not wish to discuss my personal issues or those of any other resident in jeopardy on a bulletin board. Even though I am one of the residents in jeopardy, I must re-emphasise that it is a good residency and candidates will be hard pressed to find a better residency. The fact that I am speaking for the residency itself should be proof enough. The present chairman, program director and attendings are people I look up to and I would not want to graduate without their approval anyway. Prospective residents do not be scared off by all the nonsense you have hear thus far. If you are a smart, hard working and dedicated individual you will not have any problems here or anywhere else for that matter. Just know what you what in life and be prepared to work for it.

interesting (and disturbing) thread.

So who was the person with the initial post that started this mess? Was it the other resident being fired?

I agree that a program has every right to fire a resident who is not performing up to a certain standard. As an applicant, you want a program that cares about the type of surgeon it produces. I would be concerned about those programs that turn a blind eye to mediocrity and allow bad residents to slip through. Becoming a surgeon is a process and throughout your training you WANT people to give you constructive criticism so that you improve. Some people respond to constructive criticism, others ignore it and need a little kick in the arse to change. sometimes the "threat" of being terminated serves this purpose.

Chairmen/program directors have an obligation to society, and that is to graduate surgeons who are technically capable (meet certain minimum standards of competency), have an acceptable knowledge base and have integrity and character to practice medicine. Some of these traits can be taught, others cannot.

to continue on my prior post which I could not finish earlier...

So to those who are so quick to judge UMDNJ's program (like hipscope who claims to be a "junior" attending which is hard to believe but scary if true), get some perspective and understand that getting into a residency does not guarantee that you will graduate. Hipscope thinks that a resident has to do something "egregious" to be fired. This is absolutely false. There are performance standards and expectations you must meet as a resident. If the faculty feels that a resident does not have the qualities needed to practice medicine, they have a right not to renew a contract. This is after a thorough evaluation process and steps taken to correct the resident's deficiencies. That's why you sign a contract yearly! All residency programs have an evaluation process; some are more stringent than others but all have to meet RRC standards.