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  Tuesday, 20 October 2009
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Hi, I am at a 2nd tier medical shool in Detroit and I do not think I will be honoring many of my rotations. Thus far I have got an S in surgery and I feel that I will get an S in OB/GYN as well.
Step 1=244
year 1 and 2 I had all satisfactory grades (no honors)
I am working on a research project in ortho right now
I am planning on doing 1 home and 2 away rotations in ortho

What are my chances of matching and what else can I do to increase my chances?

Thanks
16 years ago
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You did very well on your boards, congrats on that score!

I'd say you definitely have a great chance of matching. Some advice on how to further improve it:

Figure out why you're not getting better grades in your rotations. With your board scores, you should be doing better. Meet with your surgery clerkship director or chief resident and try to get some feedback.
What makes you think you'll only get an S in Ob/Gyn?

The number of honors you get in your clerkships is a good indication of how well you work as a team, and they're a very important part of your application.

Work had and do well on your away rotations. Try to work with the well known faculty at that instutition and get good letters of recommendation from them.

Make sure your research gets done before applications go out so you actually have some publications to put in ERAS.
16 years ago
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I also have similar stats and am interested in more feedback.

I am not only wondering about matching at all, but my chances at some of the mid level programs, such as University of Mississippi, Campbell Clinic, USF, Mt. Carmel, and Greenville in SC.
16 years ago
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I had some lower marks in yr 1,2. In yr 2 I got mostly honorsn (A's). That is all about learning the system at my school. DO NOT WORRY about your grades from yr one and two. Just work hard in yr 3/4 and you will be fine. Most attendings realize that if you do well on STEP I you learned your basic science.

That said, you have to rock your clinical rotations. This is easy if you do a few things that seem simple, but many people fail to do.

1. Show up early and leave late. Have all you notes written b4 you residents.

2. Volunteer to make presentations. This takes pressure off the residents and makes you look like a rockstar

3. Rock your away ortho rotations. Nuy the following books.
a. Hoppenfield exposures
b. Koval Fx
c. Miller review
d. Rockwood Fx (optional)

3. Remember that you rotation is merely a month and the staff (IN REALITY) wants someone that they can hang out with for 5 years. Keep this in mind and if you are asked to go out for drinks, etc DO IT. Then sleep and wake up early to read

4. Volunteer to take call.

5. Volunteer to assist on cases on services you are not assigned to. This will expose you to other attendings and increase your chances of matching.

When you read for cases the main questions will be on exposure and NV planes. know these inside and out.

Remember not to piss off and resident as they can not get you into a program but can usually block you (EVEN THE INTERNS).
16 years ago
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Do more away rotations. I can't emphasize enough how important it is to rotate at places that you want to go. We've taken many people that would not have made it through except for the fact that they rotated and we saw how good they were.

Here's the dilemma facing a typical program: 500 applications, pick out 60 to interview for 5 spots and it's impossible to decide which 60. So it's all a numbers game and you have to rotate I would recommend 3 places that you would want to go to.

Good luck.
16 years ago
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I agree. I actually matched at my first choice which wasn't a place where I rotated... and I didn't think much of it. Now, seeing it from the other side, I'm amazed at how useful (for both sides) rotating is, because if really gives the student a chance to interview the program and vice-versa. Besides, it's hard (but not impossible) to be a "residents' pick" to the PD if you don't rotate there... At the very least, if you like a program, make sure to go back for a day or two as a second-look. Hey, you wouldn't marry a guy/gal after only a hot dinner and 3 x 10minute interviews, would you?
16 years ago
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Thanks guys! I was also wondering how many interviews I should expect and what I can go with my app to increase my chances of getting them. My scores arnt going to change and I have gotten straight satisfactory in all of my rotations. But I will have at least 1 if not 2 publications in ortho by the time I apply and 2 if not 3 great letters from orthos. The only reason I am worrying is that I have heard of people with similar scores only getting 6 interviews and 4 of those were where this person rotated or was guaranteed interviews anyway. Any thoughts?
16 years ago
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Green med student here; forgive me if this is a stupid question, but for which presentations would we have the opportunity to volunteer?

Thanks.
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