Add "Interests" category to your CV??

You can put your usmle score in your CV, but I wouldn't put it on your ERAS CV, that's automatically there as is.

However, if you're showing someone (ie a letter writer or your dept chair) a CV to talk about your chances of getting in, I would put it on there.

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I was wondering more generally what format to put my CV in. I am applying for aways right now and am not sure what to keep on there. I can't search "CV" because it is only 2 characters ]



Try searching for curriculum vitae, what cv stands for.
I included little undergrad and I've never seen anyone put their med school grades. I would think that would be more of what a transcript is for. A CV is more like an extended resume, not a transcript.
You can chose to put USMLE score on it.

I was wondering more generally what format to put my CV in. I am applying for aways right now and am not sure what to keep on there. I can't search "CV" because it is only 2 characters

How much undergrad stuff do we include? I guess Med school grades and Step 1 should be on the CV? and also any research projects, etc.

Any help is appreciated!

as per some of my other posts, I would be careful about what you post on your CV. Yes, you shouldn't over analyze things and such, but at the same time, be careful. You should pick hobbies/interests that you have that would fit in well with most of the ortho crowd. This is how they will remember you, because it is usually the only interesting thing on someones application, because they have seen it all.

For instance (and this is a huge hypothetical) say one of your interests was "Going to strip clubs".

This may be something you truly enjoy. In fact, it maybe something that many orthopods may enjoy.

But, I'm sure everyone would agree, that's not a good interest to put down. Why? Well, that's up to you why, but this is an unambiguous situation.

Now, for instance, last year (when I didn't match,) I put down surfing. Almost everyone on my interviews asked me about that. Now, I'm sure a few of them truly were interested, and thought it was different, but at the same time, how many ortho programs do you know of that are in close proximity to surfing? Very, very few. So naturally, they thought, and they asked, "Why do you want to come here...if there is no surfing?" Sure, you may have a killer answer to reply with, but that initial impression will not be changed in their eyes. In the end, it may make the difference between one or two ranks, which can make all the world of a difference. I know, sounds melodramatic, but seriously, this is important.

They could have also decided that it was a negative thing that I was a surfer. Why? Because in the past suring was not considered a real sport, but a hobby for the lazy 'california dudes' or some bogus thing like that.

Nevertheless, you can see how something can very easily be turned against you or used to bump you down a few ranks. Several attendings have agreed with me on this, and recommended that I do not put that down on my CV.

Trust me on this one! Sometimes I truly feel the reason I didn't match the first time was because of this, I really do.

Another thing... i heard of a ton of applicants put "cooking" as an interest. That's great if you're like a culinary artist, but if you cook for subsistence and they ask you, "so what do you like to cook?"

So I guess I shouldn't share that I make some of the best cereal in the country
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So residents, do you actually get any time to enjoy your outside interests during residency. That's what I'm most worried about. I'll be an unhappy intern if I only have time to work out once a month.

Yup. The CV portion is really bland, however ,it allows the folks reading them to zip through to the stuff they're interested in.

The good news is that you can put whatever you want there and that essentially allows you to spend 80% of the interview talking about something you love. I found, on my interviews, that they seemed to match me up with attendings and residents who had similar interests.

I understand. I guess I was under the impression that we upload a .doc/.pdf of our CT ERAS. But it sounds more like how we filled in everything in individual boxes when applying for medical school a few years ago. Thanks for the info

Assuming you're making this comment based on how a couple people responded to my posts on this thread... Yes I can understand this as I've come across the same thing with fellow classmates on another medical student forum. I think if you looked at my posting history I've only asked questions and offered advice to people rather than trying to start some flame war. To be honest with you I don't understand why the last person who replied to my post did so in that way - maybe becuase you can't hear the tone of voice on an internet forum. I never claimed this as "my" forum, all I asked was for people to reply if they had an answer to my question or some constructive criticism. For those of you who have responded to my questions (and others'), thank you.

The format of the CV is dictated by the application software. So, just write in a semi-readable description of your interest and move on to the next step on ERAS.

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On a side note (this is not directed at anyone in particular); There are some folks here on orthogate that come off as loud-mouthed blow-hards that are extremely fond of themselves. I chalked it up to people being different on web forums and concluded that there is no way in hell they actually interact with other adults in person the way they do on the internet. However, after meeting a few of these people at interviews and realizing that a few are my classmates, I stand corrected.

I wonder if there is a section on the match outcomes that describes the match rate of people with various personality disorders.

Whoa. My advice: Don't come off in your interviews like you are coming off in this thread...and I don't care that it's "your" thread. Good luck.

Don't think too much about what your putting in your interests. Just put what you are really interested in, but make sure you know what your talking about regarding those things because you will be asked. I had one interview with a PD and I didn't really think he was vibing me, until he read my interests and saw I liked camping; he happened to be crazy about outdoors stuff and we talked the rest of the time about that. At one interview (where I matched), the PD just talked to me about what movies I had seen recently the majority of the time bc I listed movies as an interest. Just be honest and don't look like your trying to stand out when listing your interests because they will ask you about them and you will look stupid if you were just trying to list unique things to talk about.

FWIW I should have clarified about the business school thing... I went to a highly regarded undergrad business program. I don't have years of experience under my belt if that was the way it was interpreted.

Give me a break man, you're obvioulsy reading too much into my post because your reply doesn't take anything away from what I've said. Again, ignore the "silly" thread if you're not going to add anything useful.

A) I've matched at a very top program
I did something right on my ERAS bc I got almost every interview
C) I'm trying to help you

Lastly, if you have a master's level education in beefing up resumes, why are you posting on a silly forum about how to beef up your resume? I'm sure you can find a more authoratative wikipedia article than what you'll find on here...

I would list anything that you think a fellow ortho surgeon would be into. Sports, outdoors stuff, cars, etc. I also put my wife and dog on there, including their names. I can't tell you how many people asked about my dog (by name). So they do read it.

I'm relaxed - trust me... Theres no harm in thinking through the intricacies that may make a difference in the end, especially when I have the time do it it like right now. I went to business school before medical school and we had entire courses devoted to preparing a resume that "jumps out" and ways to impress interviewers with the limited time you get in an interview. I gurantee the same type of thing will apply for residency interviews. I'm sure you've read articles about the same thing written by two different authors and realized that one author somehow was able to engage you much better than the other. Well the same thing goes for your CV and your personal statement. I'm just asking for people to reply if they found any creative ways to beef up the non-academic portion of their CV which ended up working in their favor, so if you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation then don't reply to the thread

just put 'snowboarding' and they'll ask you about the rest. there's much more important stuff to worry about, such as getting ready for your aways.

Dude! Stop over thinking everything. That will kill you in this process. Put on there that you've been snowboarding since the birth of the sport or something. Seriously, relax, put whatever sounds good to you and go for it. You'll be fine and people will appreciate the candor.

Understood. My question is more or less how to put things on your application in the "interests/activities" section that you ACTUALLY do and want to talk about rather than just fill space. For example: I've been snowboarding for ~15 years now (since before it was allowed at some resorts in the Rockies). Although I'm not the best snowboarder in the world - mostly because I've been busy with a lot of other things in my life - I gurantee that I'm going to know as much if not a lot more than anyone I come across on interviews. For someone who may not be familiar with snowboarding or doesn't really care about it that much I'm basically trying to think of ways to spice it up on my CV such that it has a shot at being a topic of discussion. If I just list "avid snowboarder" after a bullet point people aren't going to care a lot and it may seem like I don't even care that much about it. Being that this is probably the only pre-interview medium (outside of your personal statement and LORs) that you could potentially get someone to know something about the "real you" beyond your grades and board scores I thought it would be good to expand upon or spice up the activities/interest section rather than just listing them after bullets.

Don't put stuff on that part of your app just to fill space... You run the risk of running into an attending who is an expert on the subject who may love talking about his hobby. For instance, if you say you love fly fishing and you end up with an attending who goes fly fishing for every vacation, yet you can't tell him anything about the sport bc you went once, on a guided tour, and basically just did what the fishing guide told you... well then you're hosed and look like a doofus. DON'T PUT ANYTHING ON THERE YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT INTELLIGIBLY AND WITH SOME SORT DETAILED UNDERSTAND OF. Another thing... i heard of a ton of applicants put "cooking" as an interest. That's great if you're like a culinary artist, but if you cook for subsistence and they ask you, "so what do you like to cook?" and you respond "chicken breasts on the Foreman... oh yeahhhh, protein baby!" again you'll look like a doofus. Now, if your parents own a restaurant and you were a sous-chef part-time or to make extra $, then maybe you can put cooking on your app. Get it?

Can you guys cite some examples of stuff you'd put on there? I don't want to go overboard, but I like the idea of ending my CV with some funny/witty things tied in. I thought the "tallking about Lost" comment was pretty hilarious, althought that would only go over well if the interviewer knew what Lost was and had a sense of humor. I'm an avid snoboarder and like to go camping/fishing/hunting or basically do anything outdoors. You guys just listing stuff off or do you somehow go in depth with these activities?